DATRE is a name given to those who speak through Aona. They are Universal
Beings. Datre says; \ “The evolution of the planet and the evolution of
the species are important, however, the evolution of the individual you
is our main focus.\ “
Questions from Kim.
JOHN: Kim asks – \ “I have recently come upon
the Pleiadian channeled material, info on Zeta Reticulas the ‘#8217;grays’#8217;\ ” – can you
clarify some of that for me?
DATRE: Well, first of all, you have a
planet here that we have referred to as your reality. Your reality contains
within it sub-realities. Now, in interaction with sub-realities of your total
reality, things are perceived but not seen as a rule. What you do is you go into
your sub-reality and you pick-up different vibrations. The finer the vibration,
that is not exactly the right word, but I have to use finer so that you can
The finer your vibration the less you will be able to pick it
up and perceive it through a physical construct. You
JOHN: In other words, the finer the vibration of the
sub-reality the less easy it is to pick-up.
DATRE: Yes, to see it,
to perceive it. Because only in perceiving can you create a picture in front of
you so that you can \ “see\ “. All right, now, all the planets, just about all of
them, in what you call the BIG universe contain LIFE form. But the minute you
think of life form you think of something you can see with your physical eyes,
OK. All in the universe, the big universe contains \ “wave form\ ” – that is the way
everything functions – is through \ “wave form\ “. You have no instruments to detect
\ “wave form\ “.
But that does not mean that the waveforms do not contain
LIFE – they do contain LIFE. The planets have different evolutionary processes
that they are working on, just like you are. The only thing at the present time,
that which you call your Earth, is the only planet that is working with a
\ “tangible\ ” reality, like you have.
In other words, you can tap the back
of your hand and you know you are solid. All right, that is your knowing, OK.
Now, this is the only planet… there are a couple of other planets that are
working in physicality, but not with the, shall we say, \ “compactness\ ” that your
working with it. In other words, you have over, what you call your periods of
time, layered and layered and layered and compacted and compacted and compacted,
so that you are a more \ “solid\ ” physicality, all right.
Now, as I said,
there is \ “life\ ” in the \ “wave form\ “. That is what is \ “preferred\ ” throughout the
big universe, simply because, when you are not \ “pushing around\ ” a physical body
you don’#8217;t have to bother with it. Your whole construct of physicality is putting
food in the mouth to sustain the physical being, you have to clothe it, You have
to put it in some kind of a shelter, you have to build some kind of a vehicle of
some sort to get you from point to point, because you can’#8217;t walk the distances
that you want to go.
Everything is based on trying to get your – what
you call the very you that you are – to where you want to be. Now, in a waveform
reality, if you want to be someplace – you just \ “go\ ” – because you have nothing
to tie you into a compact form that has to be moved. Now, that does not make
anything greater or lesser in grandness because it is all an experience – just
The reason we are watching you is because we have not
developed and seen developed any physicality to this extent. Now, as I have said
before the whole big universe is \ “wave form\ “. So you have constant waveforms
around you all the time. But you keep adjusting, adjusting, adjusting, and
adjusting. Now the wave forms coming in – that are going to be coming in – they
have been coming in for the last three, five years, I don’#8217;t know, something like
that and your bodies have been adjusting, adjusting.
Now there are those
who, to use your terms, can’#8217;t handle it. They have gone into what you call your
\ “death\ ” process. It’#8217;s over whelmed them and they can no longer keep their
physical body, shall we say, together, and they just can’#8217;t handle it, so they
leave. Now you’#8217;re going to have more of that coming in.
You have had on
your planet for a long period of time that who you call Jesus. Now, at the time
that Jesus became the \ “popular myth\ “, shall we put it that way, is when there
were civilizations that had almost two opposite polarities.
words, there were those with great wealth and power, in what you would call the
\ “working\ ” world and those who had great wealth and power in that which you call
your \ “religious\ ” world. So you had that which was so much grander, so much
greater. Those were the ones who had people working for them constantly, clean
their house, take care of the horses, take care of the children do all of these
menial tasks. So you did not have what you call today the \ “middle\ ” class.
Now, those people that were down trodden, shall we say, because that is
one of the words I have heard you use, they did not know how to get themselves
out of the situation they were in. So, they, through \ “mass consciousness
thought\ ” created a savior. Someone that could help them, someone that could if
they turned to god, they turned to Jesus, they… well, so I’#8217;m living on a
planet where I may be beaten and I’#8217;m down trodden, and I can barely make it from
one day to the next – but there is a god that will take care of me. You see that
was needed, the protection was needed.
Now, over this period of time you
have noticed that the younger generation is again looking for something and the
Jesus figure is not filling their need. Because intellectually they have put
things together and that book that you call your bible – doesn’#8217;t fit where their
intellect is at the present time. So, quite some time ago a new \ “myth\ ” was born,
shall we say, out of need.
This is where the \ “aliens\ ” came in. The aliens
were to come and help you and take care of you and \ “save\ ” you. It is just
another \ “savior\ “. Now, that is needed for your people because you have not
reached the point were you are able to rely upon yourselves, in each, every, and
all ways. In other words, if you know who you are, you don’#8217;t have any need for
that, because you know who you are, you know where you’#8217;re at and you have a
pretty good idea where your going. Because you get glimpses from time to time of
the possibilities of where you can go, rather than just \ “dying\ ” and coming back
on the planet again, OK.
Now, how come we can see the aliens – they’#8217;re
from the Pleiades.
Well there is a space with planets that you call the
Pleiades – you have named them that – and they have said, well they are beyond
the Pleiades, you can’#8217;t see them, but they’#8217;re beyond that. All right, you have
new energies coming into this planet. You have those that are in \ “wave form\ “
that can move throughout the universe. They don’#8217;t have to sit on a planet like
OK, a new wave form comes in – touches your planet – and what
happens is they, you…. it contains a new energy; your body does not quite know
how to handle it. Doesn’#8217;t know what to do with it – so it is something foreign,
it is something alien, and it is out there because you haven’#8217;t put it into your
body and you begin to \ “feel\ ” this whatever and you can’#8217;t put a name on it. You
can’#8217;t define it, you are confused by it and you begin to make a picture.
The brain makes a picture that you can see. That is based on the energy
construct, that shall we say, you put in front of you. This energy construct
that is put in front of you – \ “well it kind of looks like it’#8217;s got arms and
legs, I don’#8217;t know if it’#8217;s got fingers or toes, well that isn’#8217;t important. I see
a head and this figure is kind of gray\ “. They form a picture of what that looks
JOHN: The picture becomes easier when others have published
in books – these kinds of pictures.
DATRE: Oh, of course, of
course, once they have seen the pictures in the books that people have drawn of
what they think that vibration appears like – it’#8217;s very easy. Now the brain has
something to work with. Oh, I remember seeing a picture of an alien. This is an
alien standing right here in front of me.
All right, now, I mentioned
one kind of vibration energy patterning. You also have energy patterning within
your sub- realities that you cannot translate. So, in translation of one of your
sub-realities – there again you can form a picture.
Because it was a
person, \ “it was… I don’#8217;t know… you know I was in this other reality and I
really don’#8217;t know but it was a person…\ “. OK here comes the picture on the
front of the book – \ “oh that’#8217;s exactly what I saw\ “. Very easy.
another way that you \ “see\ ” the aliens – that is those in the \ “dead zone\ “. The
\ “dead zone\ ” is collapsing and those in the \ “dead zone\ ” are trying to get onto
this planet because there’#8217;s going to be no place for them to go if they can’#8217;t
get a body.
So, they come to you and if they can \ “touch\ ” you in your
sensory perception, if they can get into your head and convince you to make them
a body – what do you do, you make an \ “alien\ ” body. That in the dead zone is very
happy because it has a body – but it is a pseudo body, because it is just a
picture that you have put on that vibration. So you see, that which you \ “see\ ” as
aliens are \ “alien vibrations\ ” that you put a picture on and you have an \ “alien\ “
in front of you.
JOHN: That must be the same thing for the
so-called the UFO’#8217;s the ships, we do the same thing.
in a different construct, yes. Because there’#8217;s energy patterns that are all
JOHN: We only build… the people who build \ “ships\ ” so
called; only build ships because their brain patterning can not accept \ “aliens\ “
without a vehicle with which to get here. So they put the story
DATRE: Yes, that’#8217;s right but you see the same vibration
can exist, shall we say, on your planet, their feet on the planet.
same vibrations can exist in the sky but you can’#8217;t have an \ “alien\ ” hanging in
the sky without a ship. So you make a different story. It’#8217;s not an airplane
because it doesn’#8217;t do… why do \ “ships\ ” appear and vanish? \ “Well I saw them and
they were doing all of these things and they just \ “popped\ ” into the sky and then
they were gone\ “. \ “Next thing they appeared over here and then they were gone\ “.
That is YOU making pictures of something you’#8217;ve seen that you cannot describe.
When you cannot describe it, it becomes an \ “alien\ ” form.
So what happens
is, you have another thing that has happened on your planet. UFO’#8217;s, we explained
the UFO’#8217;s that you see that you put pictures on in the sky. Vibrations that are
Once you have seen a picture of something – that’#8217;s what
you begin to do, OK.
Now, you have others that have seen UFO’#8217;s and there
are those that have been \ “burned\ ” by UFO’#8217;s. How do you explain that? Very
simply. Your government and the governments of other countries have been working
with what you call UFO’#8217;s, that look very much like what you see in the sky. They
have crashed, they have landed in fields and made great big burn marks in your
fields, because you know how to do nothing on this planet, other than work with
what you call \ “gasoline\ ” to power anything that moves.
\ “hardware\ ” oriented. You have not reached the point that you can make something
out of metal and have it stay up in the air for any length of time. So they do
something else. They have some kind of… something within them that will propel
them. Many times when they started out with these \ “round\ ” ships that they call
them, you have had, what you would call, a couple of \ “astronauts\ ” inside of
them, but they have run on gasoline. Well of course, when they land they are
going to \ “burn\ ” something. If they crash, they’#8217;re going to make a hole.
Those have been very cleverly covered-up by your governments. I do not
know why but that is your planet and you have to figure that out for yourself.
For those people that have come close to where those ships have landed and they
have been burned, their faces have been burned by the heat and so fourth and
they saw people, these \ “gray\ ” people coming at them, guess what? \ “Flight suits\ “.
They had to have flight suits on, they were silver in color. So your government
knows this, but you don’#8217;t know that, but that’#8217;s all right. It has not affected
that many people.
However, now that there are being numerous changes
within your planet – not only of the planetary structure itself – but of the
people. And the \ “new wave\ ” energies coming in… People are becoming chaotic and
they are looking for help, because as they have said, there is a great deal of
depression, there is a great deal of scattered energies that people are… they
don’#8217;t seem to be able to function like they used to… in a very day \ “placid\ “
type of environment.
You have so many gillions of individuals, your
\ “mass consciousness gestalts\ ” are so huge and the energy contained within them
is so chaotic that people are looking for comfort. And when the \ “aliens\ ” come
and say \ “I will help you\ “, \ “we will take care of you\ “, what more do you need?
These are something that comes out of the sky. They’#8217;ve got to be \ “grander\ ” than
you are. They come up and sit or stand in front of you. They have got to be
grander than you are because they have come, they have appeared, and they have
disappeared. Well they have appeared and disappeared because you don’#8217;t hold your
picture. If you held your picture, they could stand there forever and you can
make them \ “move\ ” because it is \ “your\ ” picture.
The one thing that has
not been understood completely and you have said it again and again, \ “you create
your own reality\ ” and you do not understand what that means. If you do not have
within your genealogy – of that which contains the genealogical patterning
through your \ “time line\ “, you can’#8217;t create a picture, unless it has been seen by
the physical eye.
But most of what is created through your genealogy
\ “time line\ ” that you have now is that which you can make pictures in front of
you, so that you can \ “see\ ” them, so that you can work with them. That’#8217;s where
your experiences come from and you see, you work with that in the nighttime. But
you take your \ “daytime\ ” experiences and try to shove them into your \ “dream time\ “
and that’#8217;s were the confusion exists.
That’#8217;s where you see a lot of
things also, is in your night time sleep, but because you have drawn your
physical \ “brain patterning\ ” into your night time sleep, which is \ “geometric\ ” and
tried to force them into a physical patterning, you have become all confused.
Now, your psyche knows how to translate your \ “dream time\ ” perfectly, if you
don’#8217;t get in its way. It will put you where you wanted to be, because you all
came here saying \ “I want to do this\ “, \ “I want to learn this\ “, \ “this is what I
want this life time to be\ “. Yet, you fight the psyche every inch of the way and
then you wonder, \ “why is my life the way it is\ “, because you have not \ “allowed
it\ ” to be what you wanted it to be.
Your fighting from the \ “outside\ “,
your fighting the \ “inside\ ” and the \ “inside\ ” KNOWS and your body \ “knows\ ” and you
don’#8217;t give your body any intelligence. You came here to be in physicality, to
take a body and learn from being in a body. That was one of your experiences,
but how can you learn from a body, that you desired, if you fight and kick and
scream and holler at the body all the time? It can’#8217;t be done. That is why the
chaos. That is why we have said, again and again, and we will continue to say
it, you came here for the experience, you came here to live within that which is
a physical construct.
Now, that physical construct contains more than
your \ “brain\ ” comprehends. Once you begin to allow the body… once you begin to
allow the psyche… there will be continuity between the two, which your brain
can translate and function with, in your awake hours. You try to translate your
dreams. You can translate your dreams, if you do not push your physicality into
But you will find that the more you work directly with your
psyche and allow your psyche to work with your body without resistance and allow
and watch the experiences as they happen, you will find that your life will
smooth out. The fighting is not there. Anticipation yes, because that is a
physical construct and you have other things you work with in the physical
being. But, the thing is to \ “allow\ “.
This is what you came to learn and
until you learn what it’#8217;s all about you can’#8217;t go any place else. Because your
psyche is the only thing that can take you into another reality. You can’#8217;t go
into another reality with your physical being. You can’#8217;t go into another reality
with your physical brain, which is your computer. The one thing that I have
heard many say is, \ “I am not coming back here again\ “. Well, if you are so
convinced you are not coming back here again then you better start doing
something so that you won’#8217;t come back here again.
But if you don’#8217;t work
within the construct of yourself you cannot go any place else until you’#8217;ve
learned your lessons. You have all your sub-realities within your large
containment reality and we are here to teach you, as best we can, what this is
all about. It is not \ “out there\ ” because the \ “out there\ ” is the \ “picture\ ” that
you put in front of you and agree with another individual, or other individuals,
that that is what is out there. So you are the one painting the picture. When
you begin to allow different pictures you will find it is a greater journey than
you had ever expected.
Now remember, the \ “aliens\ ” cannot help you. There
is no one that can help you. They cannot build a hologram around your planet for
safety, because they don’#8217;t know how. They do not know how to build a hologram
around your planet to save you. That is a universal construct, it is not theirs.
You talk about detecting E.M. waves. The only thing they are able to
detect in an E.M. wave is the particle that is within the wave and because of
its different configurations they think they have figured out the wave. The only
one that is going to figure out the wave is \ “you\ ” that is in the physical
construct and gets to the point of \ “knowing\ ” what a wave is. We have enjoyed
being with you… yes?
JOHN: I wanted to get a point in that we
seem to have gone by.
The question was… a two part kind of question, it
was \ “what are the aliens\ ” that’#8217;s one part which you explained, that’#8217;s the
picture part. What about the channel part, in other words, these beings are
being channeled extensively…
DATRE: Oh, that is very simply
explained. Oh, I’#8217;m sorry I did not catch that. That is very easy to explain.
Anything can be channeled through anybody at any time. All you have to do is
connect up with their vibration. People channel the \ “dead zone\ ” constantly,
right, and ancestors. That’#8217;s what their doing. That is very
JOHN: OK, I understand that in short term. For example in
the so called Pleiadian situation, this one person has been so called channeling
the Pleiadians for quite a number of years.
DATRE: Why not. She’#8217;s
picking up a vibration. She’#8217;s translating the vibration within her physical
brain. This is what she is getting.
JOHN: In other words, she’#8217;s
basically, from a scientific point and terms, has created for herself a
\ “standing wave\ ” pattern and continues to maintain it as her frame of
DATRE: Yes, that is correct. You see that is what
happens in the \ “dead zone\ “. Although they make \ “bodies\ ” for themselves in the
dead zone, because they are unfamiliar and they cannot exist – they think –
without a body construct. So they create a pseudo body construct in which to
operate in the dead zone.
JOHN: They are uncomfortable with the
concept of no body.
DATRE: No, no, people can’#8217;t handle that
concept. So the thing that happens is they form a physical construct so that
they can, shall we say, \ “live\ ” in the dead zone, until such time as… well we
won’#8217;t get into that. But anyway, that is what they do. What they do when the so
called dead appear in front of you, that some people can see, is that they
recognize the vibration of that individual and depending upon whether it was a
relative, which is very simple because you recognize the vibration of your
parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, those individuals. It’#8217;s in your
genetics, so when you… when this vibration contacts you, you immediately have
a reference and build a construct picture around that vibration. \ “That’#8217;s my
grandfather\ ” and it can be, because it is a recognizable vibration.
\ “alien\ ” is an \ “unrecognizable\ ” vibration. But because of all the pictures that
have been out there, in all the books and everything else, you recognize \ “Oh, I
saw that in that book, that’#8217;s exactly the way they looked\ “. Very simple. The one
that has connected up with the Pleiadians vibration has connected with that
which is no different than connecting with a \ “dead zone\ ” vibration, because it
is within your sub-reality and the pictures come from within your genetics.
Because, at one time, you probably looked like that and you can not get a
picture unless it has been within your vibratory patterning of your genetics.
Some are beginning to get… You see, you have dominant genes and
recessive genes in your genetic patterning. All right, how many layers down do
you have to go to find that? It depends; it depends on what your genealogy
patterning has been. You have no idea what was happening to the genes in the
genetic patterning a thousand years ago.
What was your genetic
patterning, observing, working with, a thousand years ago? You do not know. But
the patterning is there, the patterning makes the picture. That’#8217;s why you can
take twenty-five people, and I use the number and I don’#8217;t know numbers. Take
twenty-five people and put them in the middle of a field and someone will say
\ “look at the UFO up there in the sky\ “. How many people see it?
If it is
within their genetic patterning to recognize that vibratory wave that is in
\ “your\ ” sky, as you call it, those will see it. The others will see your sky.
Same thing \ “the aliens come walking through here at a certain time of night\ “.
\ “We’#8217;ll all go and stand in the field\ “. \ “Look, here they come now and they’#8217;ll
walk right across there\ “.
How many recognize the pattern, the vibratory
pattern, and how many don’#8217;t recognize the vibratory pattern? Because someone has
said \ “they will walk across there\ ” if your vibratory patterning in your
genealogy matches that vibratory patterning, you well see them \ “walk across\ “.
But you can’#8217;t convince the other people that didn’#8217;t see it that it was there.
Now, did I cover the subject?
JOHN: Yes, thank
DATRE: All right, we will see you again, we thank you, we
have enjoyed being with you.
We are Datre.