Datre on the Universe

JOHN: As a result of watching a recent Nova program on PBS concerning the latest discoveries on our “expanding” universe, I have some questions about how the universe works in this regard. What about this idea of the universe compressing or expanding?

DATRE: Well, we have to start with a very simplistic principle. Now, are you talking about the Big Universe or your bubble universe?

JOHN: Our universe here, our ‘material’ universe, the one that is all that we can possibly see.

DATRE: All right, now that’s everything you can see. This Big Universe is in a bubble (an energy configuration that forms a containment).

JOHN: Right.

DATRE: Okay, that’s what we call right now, we call it the Big Universe because…

JOHN: That’s not the Raw Universe, that’s just all that we know about.

DATRE: Yeah, the Big one, not the Raw one. So, talking about the Big Universe, you talk about contraction and expansion. Now, lets go back to a very simple principle. What is a universe? A universe is… no you asked about containment didn’t you?

JOHN: Yeah, is the universe just a containment, a bubble? Something that holds everything within it and therefore has no inherent value in and of itself except containment?

DATRE: That’s.. The bubble is a containment – period. That’s all it is. All it does is separate from the Raw Universe.

JOHN: Right, the bubble is it’s the border.

DATRE: You see if you didn’t have the border, how would you hold anything? It has to have something, because if you look at the Big Universe, as we’ve said, even your little one with your bubble, you have what you call ‘space’. Well, there is no such thing as ‘space’. Within a bubble there has to be something.

Those stars and planets and nebula and everything – they can’t be in space. So you have this ‘black Jell-O’, as we call it. Everybody knows that the further you get away from your planet, the further you go out, the darker it gets. That’s why you see these beautiful pictures that come back from the Hubbell telescope – that’s all surrounded in blackness.

Well, if you have a Central Sun – why isn’t everything white instead of black? So, everything is black. But it’s ‘not’ nothing. Everything within a bubble is something. We call it black Jell-O because its something you can understand. You can understand the ‘pathways’. You couldn’t have a ‘pathway’ in space if it was nothing. Your science has recently discovered that the universe is filled with ‘dark matter’. This statement alone implies that your universe is not empty.

You take a simple thing like your airplanes. How could an airplane go up in the sky and go across and come down again if it all was ‘nothing’? Because, your ‘nothing’ refers to a void. Am I right?

JOHN: That’s correct.

DATRE: All right, so if you have a void, how’s an airplane going to fly? It can’t. Its simple logic principles of a “PARTICLE” universe. Now, the only particle universe you understand at this particular point is from the vantage point of physicality and earth.

JOHN: Our local bubble.

DATRE: Yes, because you can’t understand beyond that point because you haven’t been there yet.

JOHN: We’ve sent satellites out beyond our bubble, but we translate everything they send back in earth terms anyway, so we never know what we see.

DATRE: That’s right. You send back a picture from the Hubbell telescope and they have all these colors. Where do the colors come from? The colors come from the mechanical objects that you use to take a picture of them and your eyes translate the energy into color.

There are many different types of civilizations on different planets that don’t have color. They have no need for it. So, if you set them in a room with all the colors of the rainbow, it wouldn’t matter, because they couldn’t see it anyway. Because, their eyes – if they have eyes – are not tuned to it. There are those expressions of physicality – shall we say – that see no need for color. You wanted color, you’ve got color. So we go from that point.

Now, the bubble. The bubble is a containment. Take a little child getting to the point where it knows how to move the arms and the legs to scoot it across the floor. Mother says, ‘I’m too busy to keep watching this child, we’ll put in a playpen that’s got a floor in it and its got wooden bars so that the baby can be contained’. Your bubble for your planet earth is your playpen. Now, in order to have physicality – in the playpen or on your planet – you can’t have it without anything there for that which you call, ‘growth’.

Everything has to have something to spur it on to become more of that which it wants to become. So, put the child in the playpen, with some toys, give it a bottle of water and another one with fruit juice and that keeps the child contented. It can work within its own mind to create whatever it wants to create in its little playpen.

Put physicality on an earth plane – you have to have something for it to play with, something to stimulate it, something to cause it to grow. Otherwise, you would still be back horse and buggy or even further back than that. So, your ‘development’ is what you’re looking for, regardless whether its physical growth or mental growth or whatever. You have one thing in your physicality that is of utmost importance – and that is the LIFE SPARK. That is what entices you to explore, experiment, become more of what you truly are.

So, what happens is, with a child, you give them words of encouragement. You tell them, ‘you can do this, you can’t do this’, ‘this is this way because and therefore’. And the child asks questions and you give the child answers. That’s the way the child grows – from the answers you present to it.

Now, when your earth ‘bubble’ is formed, you have your planet, you have physicality, you have toys – which started out with just your bare ground and trees and animals were put on it – these were your ‘toys’, this is what you were working with at the beginning of your development. But, you needed to have some help. So, within the bubble, you have what you call the MIND of the bubble.

The MIND of the bubble contains all your possibilities and probabilities for the development of this particular physicality, to use and grow with. You’re using your possibilities and probabilities in the growth of that which is ‘you’ extending into that which becomes the MASS CONSCIOUSNESS. Be it of a house and the occupants there in. Or a store, a town, a city, any kind of an environment. And it just goes on and on and on. That’s why we have talked about the MASS CONSCIOUSNESS of the United States, because that encompasses the whole thing. But there’s variances, because of what you call the distance involved and the different ways the MASS CONSCIOUSNESS in those areas grows. You also have a commonality.

So now, we’ve gotten that far. Now, we’ve talked about the containment and in regard to some information that you received about the television Nova program that surprised the astronomers, because they distinctly could see by the tracking of certain super novas being tracked on their network – that indeed there was “expansion” of that which you call the universe. And they say that it is continuing to expand.

All right, now, it has been said that your planet and your universe is in the process of ‘contracting’. All right, from our observation of that which you call your universe and your planet – lets go to your planet first. Your planet has an action of the bubble that you could call a “breathing” action or an ‘expansion’ and ‘contraction’, which is ‘normal’. Although you like to think of your planet as standing still, it is not. So, in expanding and contracting it is easier for a planet to move with a ‘pulsing’ action then it is if it’s static, if it’s rigid.

That’s why your planet itself does not stay the same size. Sometimes it’s like an orange and sometimes its like the orange has gotten soft and it’s pressed down and its skinnier on top and bottom and the sides bulge out. That’s a normal action of the planet. It’s a ‘pulsing’ action.

That is part of this action that takes place with your universe. It is the expansion and contraction of your universe. When you think of the contraction and expansion of your little ‘bubble’, when you stop and think of how small that is in comparison to the Big Universe – that is everything you can possibly see with whatever instruments – then ‘that’ action is also going to be there and there is going to be contraction and there’s going to be expansion. And we do not see that as anything but a ‘normal’ activity. And this again, will cause the scientists to wonder. Because they will insist that it’s getting smaller and others will insist that it’s expanding – and they’re both right.

But it still is a bubble and it only has its limitations. If you blow up a balloon and you tie it off, and you squeeze it and you let it go, and squeeze it and you let it go. There is no more air or no less air in it at any time, but it still changes shape.

Now, this is not the only universe. If you stop and think about it, in that which you call, the Raw Universe, there are other universes. Well, if there weren’t some flexibility and something to contain each one of these, you would have mass chaos, because you could never accomplish anything, because you could not differentiate.

And that is what we talk about when we talk about realities – it’s the same thing. You have vibrational separations – shall we call them. That is why some individuals are able to experience different ‘realities’ while sitting still, because they have that ability to go into these other realities and come back through them, because they know what they’re doing, its no problem to them. Others cannot see beyond where they are right now – it’s fixed. But that is only their stage of development. And this is also only what they want to experience.

In other words, if an individual is afraid to go into another reality, they won’t go because the fear is going to stop them. Fear is bodily related. So, if you realize that you and your body are working together – but are not the same – then the only thing you need to do is tell the body not to fear, because you can only go so far anyway. You can’t kill yourself – there’s no way.

JOHN: So what we’re talking about with this universe thing is a ‘natural’ and ‘normal’ expansion and contraction similar to what we call breathing? There is no such thing as ‘compressing’ the universe to…

DATRE: No! Because you still have the same amount of air that you had in the balloon. You can push a balloon every which direction but you still have the same amount of air inside of it. Same way with the universe. You’ve got this humongous ‘bubble’ and you can push it and compress it in any way you want to – but the containment still contains the same amount of stuff. The only thing that changes in your expansion and contraction, is the ‘configuration’ of the bubble.

JOHN: If it is really… when we say ‘bubble’, I think we’ve said this once before. We are ‘not’ necessarily talking ‘ball’ shape?


JOHN: We are just talking ‘containment’ like a balloon. It can be any ‘shape’?

DATRE: That’s right.

JOHN: So the universe has nothing to do with ’roundness’?


JOHN: In other words, if you want to see the expansion and or compression, you have to be looking in the right direction. The side may be coming in, and in front of you may be staying where it is – relatively speaking.

DATRE: Or it could be going out.

JOHN: Just like you can stick your finger into the side of a balloon without noticing any change in the rest of the balloon. Or it could be going out – exactly.

DATRE: You see that’s what you can’t see. You look with your telescopes; you bring back all these pictures and put them on your screen. You can see side to side. You can see up and down. And you can ‘project’, is it coming closer or is it going further away? But to put ‘numbers’ on any of that is only for your own convenience so that you’ve got something common to talk about. And that’s what its all about anyway.

So they have big machines and pay salaries to these people that are watching all of this stuff. What difference does it make? They’re excited about a new discovery. That’s their whole life.

JOHN: They’re stirring up intelligence – basically. How it’s used and how it’s applied is each individual’s option.

DATRE: But, these individuals that are doing all of this are expanding their awareness and in turn are expanding your awareness. And that’s all you need to do, is expand your awareness and in expanding your awareness you in turn are expanding others. You see, many people live and don’t expand their awareness – they stay cocooned. And your awareness can be in any direction, it doesn’t matter what direction.

You’re the one that sets the parameters as to what ‘you’ want. This is what ‘creation’ is all about. Your planet and all that is in and on it, is constantly changing – CREATION by the very word itself implies constant search for ‘newness’. CREATION never ends, it is never finished, it is always ‘beginning’. That is why we talk about NOW as being all there is.

That’s why when we… lets talk about expansion and contraction. The same thing is with awareness. You can talk about ‘awareness’ as expanding and contracting. Now what happens is, with anyone that is trying to expand their awareness in any direction, the minute they begin to feel a ‘contraction’ – a restriction in an area where they are trying to gain awareness – they will become totally frustrated, ‘I’m going to quite, I’m not going to do this any more’.

And in a very short period of time, they are back pursuing their awareness in a direction that they were going in to begin with. But, they’re going with greater intensity. They’re going with more fervor because, that is one thing that the Big Universe, the Raw Universe, anything you want to talk about, resists – is being closed down. You are always expanding, in whatever area you are going in.

The thing is, it is just like a child. You have set up children to watch them expand and grow physically. Through childhood, adulthood, old age, to show that that’s the direction you’re to go in. But that does not mean to go so far and then sit on a rock and vegetate. Regardless of ‘who’ it is, they will try to seek to expand in whatever area they can. That is what your LIFE SPARK is all about. It resists standing still.

So even in your physical growth, in what you call your mental growth – that is what your brain is able to assimilate and work with – it’s always that wanting more. And that does not change when you get to where we are. Its always… but you’ll notice, that you will set aside times for yourself – which you could call ‘contraction’, because it is a momentary standing still, before you push again. If its physical, mental, whatever it is, every once in a while you will have that period of what you call ‘standing still’ or ‘contraction’.

Now, do we have it?

JOHN: I have another question. You spoke of movement within the universe, as being by way of ‘pathways’ not orbits. Since the term orbit indicates a repeated circular pattern, is there really such a thing as an ‘orbit’ as we think of orbits?

DATRE: Now, at one point in time previously we spoke about the ‘orbit’ that planets find to travel in. In other words, a planet goes to a place where the energy is compatible. And that’s where a planet will stop and as we say, fall into a grove. We said it was like a bicycle tire energy wise. But, I don’t think we ever went any further with that explanation.

Now, you talk about orbits. The bicycle tire is round and closed. Once you get inside a bicycle tire you just go around and around on the ‘inside’ of it. A planet in an ‘orbit’ does not close itself at the end of it’s circle. It spirals. It can come close to its original course, but it never goes over the same pathway twice. And there’s a reason for that. Everything in the universe is trying to become ‘more’ of what it knows it can become. So why would a planet be any different?

A planet is an ‘intelligence’. That’s why all the pieces of stuff that you see in the universe are ‘not’ planets. Planets have an entirely different composition – because they are intelligent. There is an intelligence that is attached to a planet. If there’s an intelligence the intelligence wants to ‘know’ more of itself. So it won’t retrace itself, but it will continue its movement.

You’ll say, ‘well, this planet is always in a certain relationship to this planet and this planet and this planet.’ ‘When we look through the telescope this star is here and that star is someplace else, so we see the stars in one place one time and in another place some other time.’ ‘But we always know where it is’. Do you really? Everything is in motion. Because of the expansion and contraction of your universe – the bubble that contains your universe – that moves it.

You see, if you don’t have some action, you have things being still – non movement. There are ‘pauses’, but nothing stays still because everything is in a state of ‘becoming’. So expansion and contraction causes movement. And everything is in movement. You think everything here is static – including human beings. That is not so.

As an example, we may have used this before, but it’s a very good one. One time when Aona had people over who wanted to hear Datre and we were trying to get a message across that the bodies are unlimited. In other words, you think that a body can’t be any different than it is at the present time. So in order to prove that the bodies ‘are’ movable and ‘are’ unlimited, we took this body that we were in and stretched it to almost 7 feet tall.

Now, needles to say, that was quite upsetting to the peoples watching. Simply because you see this physical body sitting in a chair, the chair moves back and this 7 foot person stands up, what would your reaction be? And this body is only 5 foot 7 inches. Then you see the body go up to almost 7 feet and then stay that way long enough so that they got over the shock of it, to see that it can be maintained at that height – and spoken through and moved in that configuration.

That is the only way that you can get some people to understand – is by showing them. All the bodies seeing this ‘know’ without a doubt that the bodies are unlimited. Then the body goes back to its 5 foot 7 inches and sits down in the chair again.

Needles to say, it is hard to continue conversation after that. But, you think everything is static, everything stays still. It doesn’t. You never have to look at anything and say, ‘it can not be changed’.

I’m sure many of you have walked into a room in a house that you have lived in for many years, walk from one room to another and as you walk through the doorway into the next room – you look at it and it looks different. Why? Same room that’s been in the house. But, you know what you do? Immediately you lock yourself in and change that room to exactly the way it was previously. You cannot handle change. You have ‘programmed’ your brain to keep things exactly the way they are.

You are the one that has to change. Nothing stays the same. But, because you make the ‘appearance’ the same, you hypnotize yourself into ‘sameness’. But, I’m glad to clear that up about the ‘orbit’ thing because nothing stays… nothing stays static.

You can put your telescopes up and you can say, ‘well that’s the same place it was the last time I looked’. How many thousand of miles has it moved? You have no idea. All right, we thank you.

We are Datre.

Pet psychic

Have you noticed that your pet seems to know more thing about you than you normally except. Some dogs , already know in advance when their masters is back home . They usually become more activate a few minutes before their master arrive at home . Sometime, they go  to wait at the door or near a window.

You may also have heard of animals that feel a disaster before it starts such as earthquake, volcano irruption and other calamities . Just like human animals have psychic abilities .

What is more interesting is that you can learn to communicate more effectively with your pet using telepathy . This is not easy but it can be taught , It’s not easy because , we tend to use symbol such as words , phrases that our pet doesn’t understand. It is better to start transmitting images or short scenes charged with emotions. Images and emotions are easier for the pet to understand. If they had matching experiences in their frame of reference they will be able to recognize your message. Avoid transmitting complicated concept such as ,“I’m stressed at my office” because this an experience very remote from the daily experience of your pet. On the other hand, try to communicate things from your experience at home or in the nature. You can also experiment with teaching your pet a few more things.

When your pet is sick, you can transmit images of perfect health combined to a feeling of love to help it to recover faster. In some case, it may work , in some case , it will not work because , you can not cure a being who do not wish to be healed. Each illness serves a hidden purpose. It is true for humans and it is the same for animals .

A specialist in animal communication Sonya Fitzpatrick wrote an entire book about a system . She teaches how to communicate with animal in her book ‘the Pet Psychic: What the Animals Tell’. If you need more guidance , you can give a try to this book. The keywords for successfully communicate with your pet are clear simple image with emotions.

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Money and the Law of Attraction

We were all born as “Law of Attraction”/ money attracting experts

When we were born, we worked within the law of attraction, without even knowing it. We didn’t have the cognitive capacity to know what we needed- but we sent out the energy of our needs to our families who reacted. Therefore, the law of attraction is inherent in every living being, and never completely goes away. In fact, it is very powerful and if people aren’t careful about what they say, think and feel- they WILL keep attracting what they don’t like.

Society teaches us to question things and think logically about everything- so we gradually start to lose that feeling which human beings, from the humble farmer enjoying ample crops and prosperity; to the man who struck gold… never lost.

What is this “Law of Attraction” and how do I make money from it?

The Law of Attraction as per my basic conception of it is- “Like attracts Like”… What does this mean for you?

Monitor your relationships- If you have friends etc. always talking about money problems, then this will attract to you. It doesn’t mean you need to end the relationship… just change the topic… or even hold feelings and thoughts such as- “they will not talk about their lack of money with me” or “they will only talk about positive things and prosperity with me”… It’s amazing what a bit of thinking and feeling prior to a meeting will do!

Don’t just “think” about getting more money- The law of attraction needs to be accompanied by feelings and visualisation. I also add a dash of “Joyfullness” into the pot. Because when I want to make more money, I want to feel joyful about it. Unfortunately, subconsciously many people have been conditioned by society to be afraid of being wealthy. Therefore, it’s thoroughly important to combine thinking with feelings, visualisation and JOY.

– Do it your way- make the law your own- I know from playing Classical piano that I must make the music my way. I must practice the ways that I wish to, and take from the artists that I admire the things that I want. I cannot fully, 100% duplicate the way they do things… This is the same with the law of attraction!

When I first applied the law of attraction, I got despondent. I had gone out and gotten myself a vision board. I had printed out fake checks and written the millions that I wanted on it and stuck it to fridge. I even found pictures of celebrities that I wanted to look like… Well that DIDN’T work for me- and I wasted time and what little money I had then, on creating these things.

So… for you, YOU need to find something that works. I like to meditate before I go to sleep visualising, feeling joyful about what I want to attract, as though it’s already happened to me. Also, throughout the day I monitor my thoughts and feelings (and who I’m talking to)… and see if I’m feeling a little bit negative. If so, I do something like take a walk, watch a funny movie, listen to music or even just visualise some more to put myself in a better frame of mind.

Finally remember… The law of attraction is not about changing the people around you. As you learn more about this law and apply it in your daily life, you may become susceptible to trying to change others. DON’T do that! Let them be. A huge part of the law of attraction is ALLOWING- both allowing others and the world to be as it is… and allowing money to flow to you. This is because if you focus on how you want the world to change, and how you want other people to change- this is a contradiction of the law of attraction-because you are focusing on the negatives of these people and the world around you. You are better off focusing on imaging how the world and people around you will become… and approach their faults with an attitude of JOY because you know it is only a temporary state. You will be surprised!… and you WILL start making more MONEY by following the law of attraction.

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Datre 200 – All realities are there continuously

Datre answers Barrie (Datre200)
Continued from Datre199

JOHN: And Barrie’s next question is; “It is from within this inner realm that we “conjure up” the objects of physical reality that we then experience when focused back in that physical reality. And we use knowledge or information from this inner realm to help us with each decision we make while physical. Or, in other words, our waking conscious self has access to all this inner information via the subconscious – which it uses to make its decisions be those decisions seemingly trivial or seemingly highly significant.”

DATRE: Well, the only time you work with consciousness is when you’re in the physical construct. Other than that, you work on an entirely different ‘wavelength’ shall we say. Continue.

JOHN: Barrie next goes on to ask; “One of the most difficult things for a physical being to accept or understand, is the concept of simultaneous time. Simultaneous time can only be understood from this inner perspective – a perspective that completely counters what our physical senses try to force upon our waking selves.

But all questions of beginnings and ends, cause and effect, firsts and lasts – only make sense from the point of view of linear time. Physical reality acts as a prism of sorts, so to speak, and divides “timelessness” or “now” or “simultaneous time” into what is perceived by the physically focused form as past, present and future. Our language is so steeped with linear time and images, it is difficult even to discuss simultaneous time.”

DATRE: What do you mean by simultaneous time? In other words, you’re referring to simultaneous time as connecting with others in other ‘time’ periods or what. I don not understand your simultaneous time – because all ‘time’ is. And the time that you experience the ‘now’ that you’re in at the present time is ‘now’ and it is ‘now’ and it is ‘now’ and it is ‘now’. And it is still ‘now’. But, in order for you to keep your perspective, you have set it up as ‘past’, ‘present’ and ‘future’.

When you get to the point of beginning to experience each ‘now’ disconnected from the ‘past’ or the ‘future’ and you move from ‘linear’ time to a different time, which allows you to step in other directions, then you will be able to perceive ‘other’ times per se. And you will discover that it all is ‘now’. When that happens, there is a great deal of disorientation. Because your brain cannot handle ‘now’, it was not designed to handle ‘now’. The only way that you can, at the present time – using the word ‘time’ again – is for you to be able to leave the physical construct and go into that which you call the ‘void’ where there is total nothingness. It is in all undifferentiated energy that you experience ‘now’.

But that is an area that cannot be described. Because it has no ‘time’ element involved in it. Then you go and you come back and your physical clock has not moved one second. But that is the time of ‘now’. But you cannot in a physical construct exist in that.

Now, as to simultaneous time, I don’t know what you’re referring to. Your time in the physical construct has movement. What causes the movement of ‘time’ are events. This is difficult to explain and I’m going to do the best I can. That space between events has no ‘time’ connection what-so-ever. In other words, in order for ‘time’ to exist, an ‘event’ must take place. There has to be ‘action’ from a physical construct otherwise you don’t have time. Continue.

JOHN: Barrie next goes on to ask; “With any decision we make, we experience all the probabilities of that decision and choose which one we want to physicalize – with agreements with all involved, including all witnesses and those who know those involved in whatever the event is – be it so called trivial or so called significant event. And we alternate various probable realities into our physical reality all the time, so to speak. And each probable reality not physicalized, continues on in its own.”

DATRE: Now wait a minute, that last sentence – each…

JOHN: Each probable reality not physicalized, continues on its own.

DATRE: Now, wait a minute, realities don’t have time. They don’t continue on their own – there’s no way. All realities are there continuously. Unless an ‘event’ is actualized, its just there. As we’ve said previously, you do not see a picture of possibilities and probabilities and all that sort of thing. You have a concept and you work from a concept. That’s why the outcome of any of your ‘plays’ is constantly changing. Because, in your part in the play the ‘concept’ is to bring forth this type of action – reaction. The other people are having this action and this reaction.

But because it’s not cast in stone, it’s very, very malleable. This action that you take, the other person may take an entirely different action than was expected. So, there’s an alteration that’s taking place in order to get the direction going to another way – because you’re going in the wrong direction now. So this has to be changed. The other person doesn’t agree with the change and either makes the change or adapts it and continues or completely leaves.

So this is what you’re doing all the time. You don’t realize what kind of a play you’re setting up, because the play is all in a concept. You write a proposed script, but that does not mean it’s going to be followed and things don’t continue on. A possibility and a probability, these are only concepts of how ‘you’ perceive a possibility or a probability. Its nothing that you can feel, touch, taste, smell, whatever. You’re not in the physical when you’re experiencing a possibility or a probability; you are only experiencing a concept. You’re putting together different types of energy and rearranging it to get what you think is something that is feasible for your information, for your education.

Another individual could take that same set of possibilities and probabilities and end up with a totally different outcome. You can’t say the outcome is going to be the same, because a possibility or a probability is only the concept of that one that is putting together the information. The outcome has to be, totally different for everybody, because there are no two things alike. They may appear alike, but they aren’t. So in the multiplicity of the possibilities and probabilities, you have every direction to go in. Continue.

JOHN: And Barrie’s final question is; “Each physically focused self creates an almost infinite number of dream and probable selves as it lives his/her life and makes his/her daily decisions. And each one of these dream and probable selves, in turn, creates an almost infinite number of its own dream and probable selves as they live their lives and make their decisions about what to do.”

DATRE: Now, stop right there. Number one, you are working with one physical body. You are not the one that is choosing the possibilities or probabilities from a ‘physical’ standpoint. The physical is to act out the ‘play’ – not make the decisions. The decisions are made for you by you – the possibilities and probabilities are there for you to experience. But you do not make the decisions from the physical standpoint. The physical is strictly the experience.

The physical creates the ‘events’. But you in the physical do not choose the possibilities or probabilities. And that’s not to say, ‘well there’s someone else that’s doing this ‘to’ me’. No, it’s you doing it to you. Except that you don’t recognize you when you’re out of physicality. And that’s done on purpose. When you get to the point that you ‘know’ and you know yourself in the dream state as well as in the physical state and you know that its all ONE, then you have found the answer to physicality. But it has to be experienced before it can be understood. And there is no way that you’ll ever be able to explain it to anyone else.

It’s a ‘knowingness’. And that’s not to say, ‘well its hidden and therefore we’ll never know’. No, you are hiding it from yourselves so you don’t go mad. You could not, with your physical brain, could not handle it – no way. Until you get to the point that you have trained your physical brain to the point of understanding then you have that experience with a great deal of ‘basic’ understanding that you have gained, then when that event takes place then you will say, ‘I know and I understand’, and you won’t go crazy because you have taken yourself ‘to’ that point of that understanding. There’s no way you can get there without that understanding – without the ‘knowingness’.

This happens on a very gradual scale. It does not happen in one lifetime. At one point in what you call your physical time, it could happen in a lifetime – because your lifetimes were different than they are now. You have your lifetimes so separated, so segregated, so set into minutes, everything is nanoseconds, so you’ve compartmentalized everything. Even your teachings are so regimented, so sterile, so basic, that they have lost all of the spontaneity, the understanding of a concept that brings you great joy. These things have to be experienced.

So you try and put everything together in its neat little boxes and then wonder why everything doesn’t fit. It doesn’t, it can’t because LIFE in and of itself is ‘fluid’. It’s not static. You have tried to make it static.

It is like watching the television the other night when they are trying to explain Easter Island. We won’t get into that. But there again, you are looking at everything from the standpoint of ‘this’ is the way it ‘had’ to be. If you were to look at it from the way it really is, you would laugh, because you’re saying it has to be this way because this substantiates this and these are these buildings and this went on in these buildings. And you know what you’re doing; you’re continually making this ‘picture’ all the time according to your STANDARDS OF TODAY. You’ve got all of this and it has to be that way. It was so many billions of years ago and these people did this and they did that and this is the way they lived based on ‘YOUR’ THOUGHT PATTERNS ‘NOW’.

You see what happens is, you try and regiment everything. It is not in the regimenting, it is in the ‘allowing’, it is in letting go and lets see what is happening. Try and figure out what is happening. As we have said so many times before, learn to be an OBSERVER. You’ll say, ‘well I don’t know why that person is so happy?’ Its simply because they’re experiencing life. Now, if they’re really experiencing life, that is a happiness that you can’t buy, shall we say. People can be happy with things. People can be happy with no things. Like the person that is beginning to understand what this ‘wild’ play is all about, and is all of a sudden getting little glimpses. Somebody opens the curtain just a little to peek out to see who’s out there watching the show. Then discovering that they are sitting in the audience. That’s when it begins to be fun. Forget the process. Enjoy watching the ‘magic’. We will leave you now, we thank you.

We are Datre.