Datre 199 – Physical realms and inner realms

Datre answers Barrie (Datre199)

JOHN: Today we have some questions from Barrie and the first question is; “As best I can understand it, humans have nonphysical personalities who have constructed physical bodies for themselves within which they experience physical reality in order to experience all of the emotions and feelings that go along with that physical experience.”

DATRE: All right now, first of all you remember, YOU WERE, YOU ARE, YOU WILL BE. All right now, this is not the only experience that you have had. This is a ‘one time’ experience for everyone. Physicality, in and of itself, is a ‘total’ complete package of experimentation and learning just as any ‘total’ experience of ‘any’ type of adventure, shall we call it, is.

Now, there are a great number that this is their first experience in any type of physicality. There are those that have experienced ‘other’ kinds of physicality and this does not negate anything. In other words, you always have been, so the experiences that you have gathered are not ‘raw’ per se. But your perspective on every different experiential exploration changes constantly your understanding of that which you call, the ‘evolution’.

You will find, as you gain understanding of a subject, let us say, in a scientific medical field, this is the way it is now, if you do thus and so, you will get this result. If you take this medication, then you should get this result. If you do this, that will result in that happening. Now you stop and think back of how long there has been medical practice and all the things that have happened over that which you call, a period of time. You go back and look at old records and you see what their ‘cures’ were and you’ll say, ‘that was very barbaric’. In other words, they put leaches on peoples bodies as a cure. They ‘bled’ people as a cure. They did many things as a cure. And you are still going through the same process. You are still looking for cures for each and every ailment that is connected with the physical construct.

But you can see, when you look at that in terms of ‘years’ it is not that long ago – because all of these things are recorded. When you think of the evolution of the whole construct of physicality, there is no way that you can put everything together into a neat little package because there is more than ‘one’ type of physicality to be experienced. So how much has been gained before you decided you wanted to experience ‘humanity’ in a physical construct?

So, when you begin to look at it from that angle, shall we say, you’ll discover that the YOU that you are is not only discovering ‘this’ physicality, but has also discovered other ‘types’ of reality regarding physicality. There are those that will dip in from time to time on a temporary basis, that have no idea about physicality, but have experienced ‘other’ types of evolution that cannot be explained here – because it would make no sense to you.

You limit yourselves to ‘this’ type of experience – this reality. But it goes far beyond that. This physical ‘human’ study is but ‘one’ in the course of evolution of SELF. Continue.

JOHN: Barrie’s next question is; “As physical beings, we physically perceive and, therefore, believe that we are physically here and physically focused all the time, but yet, we are actually blinking in and out of physical reality each instant, so to speak, so that we are as much focused and experiencing the inner, realms as much as and as continuously as we simultaneous focus and experience the physical realm.”

DATRE: Now, you’re talking about the ‘inner’ realms. This has been something that has been talked about down through that which you call your ages. The inner realms makes it sound like you have to go someplace to get into something. This is not the case. You are at all times aware of your physical body to some extent or another. Yes, you do blink on and off. There is a rhythm to all expressions of physicality, including trees, plants, oceans, rivers etc. However, you are constant.

So, the ‘inner’ realm does not exist per se. In other words, you have access to the dream state – as we’ve called it, because it was easier for you to understand. But you have access at all times to that which we call possibilities and probabilities – and those are not ‘inner’ realms. The ‘inner’ realms are something that you, shall we say, guide yourself into experiencing when you “go into meditation” and see all of these things.

But, that is a type of ‘physical dreaming’, shall we say. That’s actually what it is. You were experiencing a beautiful lake. Or you were experiencing talking with some people. Or you were doing this or you’re doing that or you’re doing something else. But those are all physical body ‘arrangements’, shall we say. It’s no different than daydreaming except that it is placing you in a different area of understanding – which you are creating.

So really, when you’re meditating, you’re doing it – for whatever reason you’re doing it – and that’s perfectly all right if it gives you the satisfaction and the relaxation you are looking for, this is fine. But don’t talk yourself into the fact that you’re ‘not’ creating that from a physical standpoint, because you are.

Now, in ‘dream states’ when you go out and review possibilities and probabilities it is not ‘inner’ or ‘outer’ anything. It is just a simple process of changing focus. You know where you’re going. You know what you’re looking for. You’re looking for specific possibilities and probabilities that you can experience for your own purposes, your own learning processes. Then coming back into the ‘wake state’ means that you’ve connected with the body again.

Then what happens when you connect back with the body, sometimes you come in and you’ll jolt yourself back into the body in the morning. And sometimes in taking a nap, you will leave your physical construct; because you have something you want to check out. Then you come back in and ‘wham’ you’re back in the body and sometimes you’re totally disoriented, and many times there are those who find they come in upside down. So, what they do is try to put themselves back into a relaxed state, perhaps even go back to sleep, to turn themselves around and get back in the right way.

The body is wanting your attention and will pull you back and you come slamming back in and you’re upside down or you’re backwards or forwards or whatever, and you’re not lined up in your body and you’re totally disoriented. Its easier for you if you could just totally relax, get out of your body again, turn yourself around and get back in. Not too many can do that, but there are those that do.

But as to the possibilities and probabilities being an inner realm – no, there is no such thing. It has been said it’s an inner realm. The experiences of the Yogis and the American Indians in their sweat lodges where they are experiencing different things and this is what we think of as the inner realms. It is all physically based. It’s when you leave the physical construct that you check out the possibilities and probabilities. And, that does not happen every five minutes, maybe doesn’t even happen every few years depending upon what your – if everything’s going according to plan then what do you need to go out for, because you know what you’re doing. It’s only in your physical construct you don’t know what you’re doing. But, other than that, you know exactly what you’re doing. Continue.

JOHN: Barrie further goes on to ask; “As far as I know, the English language has yet to come up with terms that actually describe these nonphysical and nonlinear realities that I wish to discuss. So please bear with me as I try to find terms satisfactory to myself which convey what I mean to say. I assume that you have this problem too, in trying to communicate with physical beings. So, its within this inner, spiritual realm – or nonphysical or invisible, nonlinear inner realm – that we humans “go” when we have our dreams. It is within this inner realm that dreams and probable realities have their existence and form, and where our thoughts and emotions have their form.”

DATRE: No, no, your dreams do not contain anything like a picture. It is more that you experience, to some degree, a concept. Then in the possibility/probability ‘concept’ is when you decide if that is feasible to get ‘your’ attention to act on one or the other of these concepts that you perceive. What it is is as you come back into the physical construct your brain is trying to figure out how to put these concepts into some kind of context that you will understand. That’s why many of your dreams are nothing but garbage because you can’t figure them out. You have only a ‘concept’ of a direction you wish to go in – an experience that you wish to experience.

But there’s nothing that says its cast in stone because it is a ‘concept’ and a concept is flexible. A concept can take many different directions and still achieve the same result from different angles. So that’s where you get confused in the dream state, trying to figure out what’s going on. You can wake up with a nightmare and it’s not something that you ate. It’s simply that you have come up with a concept that is so ‘startling’ to the physical brain, that it perceives it as a nightmare because it cannot understand it. It is so totally chaotic and unbelievable from the point of view of the brain and your understanding of it. Because, if you came up with this off-the-wall concept that you wanted to try and put into action, the brain is saying, ‘no way’.

Its like if someone had told someone, ‘well, we’re leaving now’. For where? We’re going to go to South America. For how long? I don’t know. What are we going to do there? I don’t know, we’ll find out when we get there. Well what’s going to happen? We don’t know. And you’re faced with this and – we’re leaving now? Yes, get your coat, get your shoes, grab whatever you can put in a bag, we’re leaving in fifteen minutes. Total utter confusion? You don’t know where you’re going. You don’t know what you’re going for or what you’re going to do when you’re there. And you don’t know this person, this person rapped at your door and gave you this information and said your leaving in fifteen minutes. Now, if that isn’t a nightmare I’ll put in with you.

This is the kind of thing the brain is contending with. All of this stuff comes tumbling in – then ‘fear’ grabs the individual and that’s what happens when this information comes ‘with’ you and hits the brain. The brain is trying to comprehend and it can’t put anything anyplace and its total chaos. Then you wake up and you’re dripping wet and you’re scared and you’re sick to your stomach and all of this. Its emotional reaction to the information of the concept that is being given.

But these are things that continually happen, this is part of physicality. Now, you get a dream and oh its very nice and you can get up in the middle of the night and record it, and, oh yes, you understand that, that’s perfectly logical. That’s fine. But you see, many things are happening all the time and in physicality you don’t know what’s happening. You say you do, you’ve got it all figured out but it doesn’t always work the way it’s all figured out. And that’s the surprise. You know what your doing but the physical doesn’t always know what you’re doing.

So as far as an inner realm is concerned, you’re just working in different concepts all the time, it’s no different. You want to get ‘out there’ and discover what’s out there – which we can’t describe to you. But if you can’t figure out what’s going on in here, what in the world are you going to do out there? You’re going to have less to work with.

At least you’ve got a physical body here. That is a help, believe me. You may not think it is, but it definitely is. If you have no physical construct and you have no way of communicating or making yourself understood, then how are you going to manage? You have to have ‘something’ in order to go someplace. And the best way to do it is to understand ‘here’ before you go ‘there’. And it doesn’t matter how long it takes – because there’s no ‘time’ anyway. The only thing that has got ‘time’ is the physical construct. You have ‘forever’ because there’s no beginning, no end, it all is, there’s no time and ‘everything’ is happening.

Have I got you confused? I hope so. Continue.

Part II Continued on Datre200

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Remembering Atlantis – The True Story

templeflickrMyths about Atlantis continue to be created, and I know that in my lifetime, like String Theory, proof of the truth behind the myths will be discovered.

Two recent programmes on the BBC claim that the story of Atlantis derives from a huge natural disaster in the Aegean which tore apart the islands of Thera and Crete in 1620 BC. I have no doubt these cataclysmic events happened, but believe that the original story of Atlantis occurred far earlier, 12000 years or more before, and very differently.

Because this point of time on Earth parallels what happened in Atlantis, many of the people who lived then are in incarnation now as part of their completion and it is likely you are among them, with your memories and possibly karma from those great events. I too was there, many times,and this is what I remember of the final days:

Atlantis was a great land lying in the middle of what is now the Atlantic and it was very beautiful. It was abundant with riches of wildlife and culture, also wealth through trading. It was, additionally, the spiritual centre of the world: the ancient wisdoms were known and practised as the heart of the civilisation; great spiritual teachers were revered and sought after for their gifts; and priests and priestesses of the highest calibre did their service in temples of extraordinary and high interdimensional frequencies, conduits between the people and the divine working magically to heal and transform to achieve heaven on Earth.

Each temple had its own purpose and was designed to help to achieve this through use of colour, for example, shape and material. The High Temple, the Temple of Light, was a portal to other planes and an entry point for beings of the highest light. It was the place where time did not exist and because of the strength of the frequencies only people of the clearest resonance could be there, and those who were permitted to be there were present in their monadic being only – nothing of matter could be there. As such, the temple was created from living clear crystal and at its centre was a great blue quartz crystal, a transmitter with powers which even now I may not specify.

At its spiritual peak, Atlantis was a place of bliss – but times change and nothing remains the same forever on Earth. Atlantis was spiritual sublimity, but, like every such epoch, the swing of the pendulum changed as a result of the choices of Man.

The great continent was not only a spiritual and cultural centre, but a technological one too, and amazing experimentation and discovery took place which have never been exceeded. The combination of spiritual wisdom, magic and science produced wonders which are unimaginable, and the fusion of these gifts of service worked in perfect harmony while the imperatives of the ancient Laws based on altruism, simplicity and good intent under the aegis of God were followed.

Over time, certain men and women in every walk of life began to see opportunity for personal advancement, bringing with it riches and power. Using the sophisticated tools and knowledge they had, they realised that pure gold could be made from base metal; human and animal experimentation could produce hybrids that could be controlled and enslaved; psychic communications could foresee the future and influence the present; the light could be used to create what was dark. Atlanteans began to fall into material temptation and the struggle between the vibrations of the highest and the lowest began.

Some of the priests and priestesses succumbed, others saw what was occurring and resisted, but increasingly the lure of possession beguiled the people, and they wanted more. The lands and the world of nature, hitherto so much honoured, was plundered carelessly as science and technology became pre-eminent for what it could deliver. Spirit became forgotten or abused. Gaia watched and waited.

The dark masters of Atlantis had learned to control souls. Their intention was to go further and control monads – to control Spirit. It had never been done before. Each monad is a spark of God and as such is pure Spirit, incorruptible and comprising sheer light. Souls, by contrast, are the bridge between humanity and Spirit, a reflection of the journey of man and man’s experiences, a mixture of light and dark. For many Atlanteans, lured by the promise of wealth and power, the sacrifice of their soul on the altar of materialism was a price worth paying, and they disregarded the long-term repercussions for themselves and their world.

The dark masters had their plan, an inverse reflection of the Plan of God, and it centred upon the intention to control humanity through the drug of matter, and through this, using powers of great magic they had acquired through the Atlantean spiritual experience, to exploit and then destroy divinity where it could be found. In this, they underestimated the determination of the Masters of Light, the Light and the Love of God, that Spirit on Earth would not be destroyed.

A battle between the scientists and technologists on the one side, and the spiritual community on the other began. You could call it the battle between mind and heart. There was intense pressure to bleed Atlantis and beyond dry of her life blood to feed the demand for riches, but many resisted. Gaia herself, violated and disregarded for years, protested through sporadic earthquakes, floods, volcanic eruptions and tsunamis. The tide of greed continued to gather force, however, as did the insatiable desire for power.

The Temple of Light remained as it always had been, a sacred place of extraordinary interdimensional spirituality. The High Priestess and certain of her acolytes knew what was occurring beyond and recognised the challenges to the Master Plan, but saw also that the experience was the ultimate choice of mankind and should be accepted as such without judgment. What to do about it was their challenge personally and spiritually. The dark masters saw also that, while the Temple of Light survived and its flame of service burned, they could not achieve their aim of spiritual and world domination. The Temple, and its servants, had to be destroyed. The Temple was the key. In order to control Spirit, the dark masters in Atlantis had to destroy the great Temple of Light which held the cosmic secrets they sought.

They had within their power a number of junior priests and priestesses whom they had corrupted both sexually and with the promise of riches; their minds had been turned and all sense of moral integrity had been stripped away. They waited within the sacred fastness of the Temple for the signal to administer drugs to the High Priestess and her loyal acolytes which would render them paralysed and blind, unable to escape but locked in their bodies. The drugs would close down all the chakras, severing all psychic and spiritual links, and would act as a truth drug.

Meanwhile, skilled Atlantean technologists and black magicians, hungry for fame and advancement had studied the workings of nature with the intent of controlling it, and they thought they had succeeded. The plan was for them to harness the energies of the Earth and to create an earthquake which would be localised immediately under the Temple of Light destroying it but leaving the rest of the continent unharmed. It was risky but they were confident they would succeed, for they believed nothing could better their scientific and magical knowledge.

Within the Temple the High Priestess, herself a Master of the Light, was in constant communication with the Source through the mighty quartz crystal which was the centerpiece of the crystal structure, and through meditation and ancient ritual. She knew of the dark Plan before it was devised. It would have been easy for her and her friends to leave the place using the portal within the crystal but by abandoning the Temple in this way she risked the violation of cosmic secrets and the likelihood that Atlantis would become a potent centre of darkness which could take over the world and destroy the Plan of God. She had to be there until the end.

On the last day of Atlantis the plan was ready, timed to begin exactly in accordance with the perfect astrological profile for battle and success – but success for whom? The rogue priests, as instructed, dropped poison into the altar cups of those they wished to destroy, but their targets had prepared themselves through prayer, healing and cleansing and the use of natural antidotes given to them by skilled herbalists, and the poison had no effect. When men arrived to capture them for torture and brainwashing they were confronted by the sight of a ring of priestesses moving ritualistically around a great fire which burned within the Blue Crystal. They were filled with an unearthly light and strange music played seemingly from nowhere, while mythical creatures of magnificence accompanied them. The men were filled with fear, and ran away.

Deep within the Earth below the elementals which had been enslaved waited, but very conscious of the rituals going on in the Temple above them. The signal came for the earthquake to begin, and as it did a bolt of energy, like lightning, came through the crystal layers and released the earth spirits to do the bidding of God. They created an earthquake, but rather than destroying just the Temple above it spread underground until it reached the place of capitalism, the home of the dark masters, and erupted explosively there before spreading beyond. Tidal waves of enormous proportions were created and dormant volcanoes came to life, and Atlantis began to break apart and become submerged.

The Temple of Light continued to stand, all the sacred wisdoms contained within the crystalline structures and the priestesses who waited, knowing it was their task to destroy the place they loved, and themselves, for the sake of the spiritual future of the planet. As Atlantis heaved and burned below them they took the Temple secrets into themselves to be held until it was time for them to be released into the world again. The High Priestess, surrounded by those who were left, took the sacred Rod of Initiation and invoked the power of God as she drew sacred symbols over the Blue Crystal and the others chanted mantras of great power.

With a crash of thunder and an explosion of light the Blue Crystal cracked, and the force of the event caused the Temple to shudder and sheets of heavy crystal began to fall on those who were there. Most were killed immediately, but the High Priestess continued to stand in the centre of the Crystal, newly exposed, speaking in a strange tongue as she did the bidding of Spirit using a form of magic never seen before or since, working with stars and moons and nature, with beings from other planets to ensure the mission was completed.

The Temple shattered around her and Atlantis disappeared beneath seething waves. Some of the people who survived, fleeing in ships to other lands at night, spoke of seeing a pillar of light coming upon the broken Temple, and that, when the light lifted the Temple was not to be seen. The mission was complete.

Claire Montanaro is a skilled and sought after spiritual teacher, speaker, lecturer and author, with a reputation for inspiring and empowering her clients, students and audience. Based in Wales, her heartfelt desire is to assist people to actualise their total connectedness to all that is. Additionally, she offers a global philosophy for living and being in the new age for all seekers of truth. Seven simple yet intensely profound Principles form the core of her teaching, the practice of which embodies the New Consciousness and is a catalyst for One-ness. Her book “Spiritual Wisdom” is published by Piatkus Books. Her website can be found at http://www.inluminoglobal.co.uk where you can read more articles like this in her regularly updated Thoughts for the Day (blog).

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What Kind of Psychic Are YOU? (This May Change Your Mind)

Are you psychic? If so… HOW so? What type of unique, intuitive abilities do you believe you possess? Do you ever see or feel things before they happen? Or, do you occasionally have experiences that are so amazing and enlightening that you fear sharing them with other people out of fear of being branded nuts?

The truth is, there are all kinds of cool, creative and compelling “clairvoyant” types of experiences, and many of them don’t easily fit into the sort of box that many of us think about when we ponder our own psychic and spiritual abilities.

For example?

Just about EVERYONE has the ability to expand our awareness and see, sense and feel things that are happening at great distances away. It simply takes practice to perfect, but everyone reading this right now can HAVE the experience of “witnessing” things that are happening outside of your current visual field of view.

Other people have ONE experience that opens up a whole slew of OTHER spiritual and psychic experiences that change their lives, and their world view forever.

For example?

Near death experiences, or people who “see the light” so to speak often come “back” with an amazing array of extraordinary abilities and a slew of psychic senses that they didn’t have before hand.

Many NDE’rs will talk about being able to see, sense and speak to spirits after they’ve come that close to crossing themselves, even if they didn’t believe in ANY of this stuff beforehand.

Others report an expanded sense of self… and a radically reduced fear of death, and an amazing INCREASE in a sense of psychic connection to all other living beings, often including animals, insects and even plants.

I know… it sounds crazy to say… but it’s TRUE, and an appreciation for the energy of life doesn’t have to be limited to just life that is most like us.

All kinds of other psychic abilities are much more common than most of us admit – from precognition, to lucid dreaming, to even things like having vague memories of past lives or previous incarnations that feel as real, at least for a few moments, as our daily ones do everyday. (something I’ve personally experienced on many occasions as well)

What about YOUR psychic experiences? Which ones are those that make you feel that there is much MORE to life than our 5 senses could possibly reveal?

What Kind of Psychic are YOU? Share YOUR coolest or craziest psychic experience with us HERE… and find out NOW!

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