Datre 173 – Is it possible to build a machine that would allow communication between the physical plane and other non-physical planes?

Datre answers David and Yariv. (Datre173)

JOHN: We have some questions from David and his first question is… “Is it possible to build a machine that would allow communication between the physical plane and other non-physical planes? I’m a computer programmer and I’ve always been fascinated by a statement one of my teachers made in college: “Software is not something physical. We cannot touch it, we can only feel the effects of it.” Computer software is essentially a logically formed unit of energy that is stored magnetically (on a computer hard disk) or electronically (in a computer memory). It seems reasonable that a computer program could interact energetically with something other than humans and other computers.”

DATRE: Now, what you’re talking about is ‘particles’. Particles interact with particles. So, you have a situation there that at some point in time you might be able to do such a thing. It would depend on ‘how’ the components of your computer are made as to whether that would be a possibility.

There have been, over many years of your time, those pieces of equipment that individuals have developed, in this country as well as in other countries that have made communication with the dead zone possible. Now, if it is communication with the dead zone that is possible through that which you call, pieces of equipment that is one thing. But, if you have communication, that is… in other words, if you want to communicate with someone on another planet, how are you going to do that?

The combinations of ‘particles’ into different components on different planets, is what changes their evolution. So, if their combination of particles into different components then those that you are familiar with here on your planet, how can you communicate – because you don’t know their combination. So, unless you have a physical construct that can be used to facilitate a different vibratory construct, I don’t know how a computer would ever be able to do that. Regardless of which way it works, it still would be ‘your’ creation. Then, depending upon what you use as ‘your’ imaging facility, that would make a difference as to what you could do with your imaging with ‘particles’.

So you see, it is not as simple a process as you thought it might be. There may be a point in ‘time’ when you will discover another way of making your software or making the components within your computer that would have a different component that you would be able to communicate with that which you call your dead zone. Because that would still be within the realm of this ‘known’ physicality. And that is what you would have to work with first. Next question.

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JOHN: And he continues on to ask… “Could computer software be used as a link between a physical machine (i.e. a computer) and non-physical sources of information to conduct communications?”

DATRE: Well I think we’ve explained that as best we can. Because you’re working with two different types of energy. At this point in time the energy that you’re working with is ‘earth’ energy and ‘your’ combination of ‘particles’ to form what you work with on this planet. Other planets take energy and do it differently.

You see, this planet has it’s own evolution. You set up the standards at the beginning and you continue to modify within those standards that you found workable on this planet. The thing that you do is, you ‘recombine’ different aspects of physicality for your evolution – not only of the planet, but of yourselves.

You take, that which you call, the movie industry. How many basic plots do they have? They have the love stories. They have the murder mysteries. They have the war stories. You’re very limited in your story lines. So, the only thing that you can do in living your ‘individual’ story-line, is to change the components – because that’s what you have to work with. So, that is all you can do, is change the components, because, the story lines are basically set.

You take your programs like, you’ll say, ‘well, there’s other directions’. You take your science fiction and go where no one has gone before. And they get there, and what do they have? They still have human beings. They have distorted the faces or something to make them look like a different race of people. And then you have those where you go in someplace and everybody in there are different kinds of animals – but they’re all based on the animals that you see all the time. So you see, even ‘that’ is still based on what you have in your everyday life. And the stories still evolves around the same two principles – good and evil. So, there you are, round robin. The only thing you can do as an individual is, change ‘your’ story line. And no one else can do that for you. But, when you begin to change your own story line that is when you begin to have fun. Continue.

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JOHN: Now we have a question from Yariv which asks… “I read in some books (can’t remember which) that when you die, you begin to see all of your life’s occurrences from the end to the beginning and this is when you integrate what you learned in the physical. Then it said that if your body parts are being taken to donate to other people the soul is distracted from these lessons, and a lot of what could have been learned is being missed. The book recommended not donating organs. So the question is: donate or not?”

DATRE: That is entirely up to you. All you are doing, in your physical life that you have just led, is store data – beginning to end – is store data. You don’t do brain transplants. You don’t do ‘soul’ transplants – as you call the soul. That portion that you take with you is experiential data. That cannot be taken from you, that is yours. The only thing you can do, is give it away – because you don’t want your horrible life experiences. Which is very…certainly not necessary.

But you see, there again, there is a definite separation. The body is the body, and you are you. And you are you from the first time – thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago – that you first stepped into physicality. And that is all contained within your RNA and DNA. Those are collectors of data. Your RNA and DNA are also ‘energy’ constructs. Remember, this whole planetary reality is just a psychological construct.

So, if you have a computer and you’re putting everything on hard disk, and every time you move to a new location you put all your hard disks in a box and take them with you, the rest you leave behind, you still have your information that you have gathered. That’s what the body does. It stores information, it stores data. The storage of data takes up a lot less space than the storage of the story lines. What you ‘do’ with that data is recombine it for your next story line in physicality.

In other words, if you take your boxes of hard disks with the information and take your computer and move to the other side of the planet, you put them in there and you got your information. Then you can recombine that information any way you want to. Then if you say, ‘well that piece of information is no use to me any more’, then you throw it away. But, it’s always ‘your’ decision – and no one else. No one can ‘take’ anything from you and no one can ‘do’ anything to you.

As to whether you want to be an organ donor or not be an organ donor that is strictly up to you. If you feel that you’re going to loose by being an organ donor, that will stay with you because that’s ‘stored’ data. And there again, we have a ‘belief’ system that is not going to let you go. Because, you ‘believe’ you have lost something and that belief is going to stay there until something changes it. So here we are back to belief systems. Your belief system is what is going to make the difference as to whether you are an organ donor or not. Its as we have said before, if you believe that the only way that you can get well, is by going to a doctor – you’ll say, ‘well I don’t believe that any more’. How deep is that belief? Better stop and think about it, your belief systems are very, very, strong – because, you did not acquire them in just one lifetime.

Since you take your data with you, and you reconstruct your story line for your next physical existence, how much did you change it? How many times have there been past life regressions and found out that person has always been a dirt farmer? They didn’t change the story line very much. But you see, you’re the only one that can do that. Realize, the powerful individual that you are. Own ‘UP’ to ‘who’ you are. You’re the only one that ‘can’ make the changes. Continue.

JOHN: That was the last question.

DATRE: Thank you.

We are Datre.

Datre 172 – Today is important NOT 2012

Datre answers Marc and Barbara (Datre172)

JOHN: Today we have a question from Marc as follows… “I’ve read much on the subject of human evolution, and I have every one of the symptoms (gaining a GREAT interest for the spiritual in a short time, runny nose, hectic life, etc..) Could you please explain a little about what is happening to us, and what is going to happen in 2012 (the end of the Mayan calendar)?”

DATRE: Now, we discussed recently about the Mayan calendar and said, ‘that was as far as they could project’. Now, because you have become so reliant on information to fashion your life by, that people are forgetting to make their own lives the way they want it. In other words, because of your system of learning and teaching from childhood on, you ‘expect’ to have a guideline to follow at all times.

In other words, when they start out with young children, you send them to some kind of pre-school so that they can learn before they get into school. Then when they get out of school, they go into another school – to college, university, whatever. Many of them spend their whole lives staying in a university because they want to take other subjects. All they do is keep getting information all the time.

Now, that is fine if that is all you have in mind and that is your goal – is just to keep stuffing into the head. But, if you keep stuffing into the head, where is ‘your’ inspiration? When you keep following the guidelines of ‘others’, you are not being the ‘creator’ that you intended to be. You have your own individual ‘signs’ and ‘symbols’ that you set up for your self to follow – and they’re in front of you all the time. When you see something that catches your attention, what do you do with it? Ignore it? Or do you take some action and see where that leads you? That does not mean you run around willy-nilly, and don’t do anything.

It means that you have to set your own standards of how you want your life to be. Then if you don’t pay any attention to it, you just follow whatever the next person says, ‘oh, this is the right thing’ or ‘this is the way to do it’, you’re always just being second guessed as to what you can do or not do. You need to go out and follow your self. That’s a scary thing. You’d be surprised, most people don’t want to do that. They would much rather have someone else tell them what to do – it’s easier. You don’t have to make any decisions and you don’t have to think for your self very much.

If a book tells you ‘this is the way to do it’, do you always follow the book – down to the very last letter? An artist that paints probably starts out with a teacher to teach them colors, but the true artist at one point separates themselves and says, ‘that’s enough teaching, now I’ll do it my way and see what happens’. No different in life. You are taught to a certain age – that is one of the requirements in your countries. Then you have what they call a high school education. Now that you have your high school education what do you do with it? Do you take that and go out in the world and see what you can do with what you have and your own ‘intuition’? Or, do you keep stuffing more stuff into your head?

Now, if you have a profession, you have to go to college. That is an entirely different situation. In other words, if you’re a doctor, this says that you can’t be a doctor unless you do this. So, that’s what you have to follow, you don’t have any choice. But, if you’re not going to go into a specific profession, then do your own thing. Follow your self. You’re the one that has set it up, but if you don’t set up anything in front of you, you have nothing to follow. There’s something in front of you all the time. Now are you going to follow it? You’d be surprised at the number of people that follow their intuition and lead very exciting lives.

Now you asked if we could explain a little bit about what is happening to you. Quite some time ago, on the transcripts, we told you about the new energies that are being interacted with on this planet. Now, as we’ve said before, ‘everything is energy’. You transform the energy for your individual selves.

Now, how are you handling the new energies? New energies, just like anything else that’s ‘new’, is a change. In other words, if you have a car that’s breaking down and you have to get a new one, and you go and buy another car, isn’t that a change in your life?

Okay, now, you can’t go out and say, ‘Well, I don’t want this body any more. Where can I buy a new one?’. You have to make the adjustments and the changes to suite your self. Now, because, everyone is experiencing many of the same things – why? It’s the handling of the new energies. You have to learn, just like everything else. If you get a new car it’s not going to drive the same as the old one. Maybe something on the car, a lever or a switch, is in a different place than it was in the other car. So you say, ‘oh, well this used to be in the other car it was here and in this car it’s here’. So you make an adjustment to drive the car.

So, okay, now you end up with runny noses and bad backs, you have hectic lives and all of these things, and what are you going to do? You’re going to have to make changes. You’re going to do one of two things. Either you’re going to allow the body the freedom to let the nose run or you’re going to take medication to stop it – the choice is yours. Same way with your hectic life. Are you going to sit back and ‘observe’ and take a look at it and say, ‘wait a minute, what’s happening?’. And either continue to run around like a chicken with your head cut off – or, make changes. The other person can’t change your life; you’re the only one that can change it.

So, this is what the new energies are all about. But people don’t recognize that something is changing. There are a lot of things that are changing. You were asking about 2012. Do you have any idea how long you’re going to live? Are you going to finish out your day? You know, sometimes I look at different things. Today, when John got the paper and the paper has a section they call comics – it’s supposed to be funny – sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t. But, just to show you that the “spiritually evolved” individual is not the only one that is noticing changes. Here it is in your comic’s. A statement that say’s, ‘If time never stops, how come its always NOW?’. Now, that’s a very profound statement. And its not coming from anything but the comic’s. Are you an ‘observer’? I’ll bet that they are umpteen people that never pay any attention to that. But, you see, changes are taking place. If you’re beginning to see things like this, this is where MASS CONSCIOUSNESS is moving. They’re moving toward ‘change’. That’s why we have said, ‘be an observer’. Notice the changes that are happening. It’s an exciting time if you ‘know’ what’s going on.

You don’t have to go and read all kinds of things that tell you what to do and ‘how’ to live your life. All you have to do is turn on your television in the daytime. And every program that they’ve got is chaotic. And people looking to other people to solve their problems. They’ve got more than one program that has court trials. There’s more than one program that has couples that are squabbling with each other. Then they’re up in front of a big audience and wanting other people to solve their problems. What’s going on? Why are not people taking responsibility for their own lives? No, somebody else can fix it.

Now, no body else can fix it. But, the more individuals that read and understand the Datre material and all of the other material that is being put out today, that tells you to take responsibility for your own lives. That is what is going to move MASS CONSCIOUSNESS in a direction that you want it to be going in. Every one of you wants a different life style than you’ve had previously. That is what ‘evolution’ is all about – change. So, in changing your self – individually – that changes the whole.

That’s the direction to go in – just change yourself, that changes everything. It changes ‘your’ perception. It is ‘your’ reality; it is how ‘you’ perceive it. And the more people that perceive this going into this new Millennium as being an interesting evolution of humanity, and watching it and being involved in it and enjoying it, that is going to propel you faster than you’ve ever gone before in your evolution on this planet.

And then you say, ‘what about 2012?’. What about “today”? This is the one you’ve got – and the ‘only’ one you’ve got. This is not the first that we’ve seen in these comic’s. It is in your newspapers. It is on your television. It is on your radios. It is in all of your mass communications. Pay attention to what is happening. Who cares about 2012 when you have “today”? Be responsible for your own self. It is very, very, important. You don’t think as an individual, you amount to anything. You don’t ‘look’ at what you can achieve as an individual.

As an individual, an individual is one. And then there are two. And then there are three. And then there’s thousands. Start paying attention. Don’t worry about 2012, you might not be here – along with many ‘others’ that might not be here. But, those that ‘are’ still here, regardless of what their ‘age’ is – say by the time 2012 gets here, there are going to be people that are 150 years old. But that is because they have stayed with evolution and gone ‘with’ it instead of fighting it. There were things in a newspaper, not long ago – Aona only reads one a week, but she reads the whole thing – it talked about the number of people in their 100’s that were still active individuals. Some of them are even working in hospitals, taking newspapers and magazines to people – 100 years old. And then people retire at 62, 65, 55, and then they complain that they’re getting old.

Now, stop and look at the evolution of the individuals on your planet. They’re getting older – because, they’re enjoying every day of their lives. You know why you die – because, you’re fed up. You’re bored. You don’t know what to do with your self – ‘I’m in a situation and I don’t know how to get out of it, I think I’ll die and start over’. If that’s your answer – fine. But that’s what everybody else’s answer is. So why not be the individual that says, ‘I’m going to stay as long as I can, because every day is going to be of interest to me’. Now, it may be hectic. It may be chaotic. It may be some days that you don’t want any part of. But, if you look at it as a ‘learning’ experience, then stay with it, get through it. This goes for each and every one of you. Continue.

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JOHN: And now we have some questions from Barbara as follows… “To me, my dreams are fascinating experiences which absolutely enrich and sometimes even change my life, so I’m wondering, why can’t we remember but few of our dreams, and why do we forget them so quickly once we are awake?”

DATRE: Well, you’ve made your decision as to what you think is important to you. Your dreamtime is spent exploring – you explore possibilities and probabilities. If you were to lay out on a piece of paper – a great big long strip of paper in front of you, that’s say, 6 to 8 feet long – and you just list all the possibilities and probabilities on that big long piece of paper. How long would it take you to read all of those? Not very long. But, if you see one that looks interesting and you begin to ‘think’ about it, you may never get to the end.

Now, the one that you stopped at was fascinated by and began pondering it in your sleep time, that could very probably be the one you bring in when you wake up. The other ones did not fascinate you, that’s why you don’t bring them in. You ‘pick’ the ones you want to experience the next day or for a period of days, depending upon your fascination with that particular suggestion from possibilities and probabilities.

You’d be overwhelmed if you came back and woke up in the morning and remembered all of these things you’d seen on this piece of paper – you wouldn’t know what to do with it. Because you are single focused is why you remember one and not all of them. Sometimes you remember several ‘sections’ of different dreams when you wake. But, depending upon what you do with them when you’re awake, whether they’re important or not important, that is up to you. Continue.

JOHN: And her next question is… “When a dream turns lucid or eventually one wakes up out of the body, this seems to be a strong evidence that at least part of our dreams are taking place out of body. Is this correct and if so, are all of our dreams out of body? Where is their location – the dead zone, maybe?”

DATRE: That is strictly up to the individual as to ‘where’ your dreams are. Of course they’re out of the body. If you were ‘day-dreaming’, then you’re in the body. If you ‘night’ dreaming, you’re out of the body construct. But, daydreaming is as valid and important to your evolution as night dreaming. But, day dreaming usually is not that substantive. In other words, in daydreaming you’re projecting things for you to look at but have no desire to take part in. Now, there are those that daydream with something particular in mind and they begin exploring the possibilities and probabilities and it becomes very important to their waking existence.

You see, you make such a separation between nighttime dreaming, daytime dreaming, meditation all of these. You’ve separated everything and pidgin holed it. ‘This is a meditation – because’. ‘And this is day dreaming – because’. ‘And this is night dreaming – because’. But you don’t need to separate, because its all ‘you’. It’s just the different way you approach each thing. But if you were to erase the lines of demarcation, you would see the ‘flow’ of your existence. Continue.

JOHN: She further goes on to ask… “When a dream turns lucid, my thoughts can create all kinds of things, environments, situations – does this mean that in a dream all that I see is made by myself, pure imagination, not “real”?”

DATRE: Well, we’ve said before there is no one else that does anything ‘for’ you or ‘to’ you, it is “all” your creation. Just because you close the body’s eyes doesn’t mean that you don’t continue your existence. Just because you “die” and lay down the body and leave the body, that does not mean you ‘discontinue’ your existence. This is all written by you and no one else. So your dreams are ‘yours’. Your daytime wakefulness in the body is ‘yours’. You lay the body down and step out of it, that’s still you.

That’s what we talk about when we say – ‘individuation’ – begin to realize that this is ‘all’ your production. And then you’ll say, ‘well I don’t amount to anything’. Well, from our standpoint, you amount to a great deal. But it depends on what you want to do with your ‘individual’ self. Do you want to ‘do’ something with your ‘individual’ self? Or, do you just want to go along for the ride? If you go along for the ride as an OBSERVER, then you learn a great deal. If you go along for the ride just to morn and groan and complain and be battered around by every whim, and don’t take charge of your existence, and then say, ‘well I don’t know why I ended up where I did’, well you’re the only one that knows – because nobody else knows why you did what you did. You see, you can’t ‘blame’ anyone for your situation. Nor can you ‘praise’ anyone for your situation. Because, you’re setting it ‘all’ up. And they say, ‘well, its the will of God’. Well, as long as you’re God, that takes care of it – it’s your will. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question continues… “What about people and entities we meet in our dreams – are they just our imagination, or do they exist separately from us?”

DATRE: You used a good word there – imagination – image-ing. Does that answer the question? Continue.

JOHN: And again she continues… “If they do, who are they?”

DATRE: No one can answer that question but you. If you are putting people there, then we don’t know who they would be, we would have no idea, you’re the only one that knows – you’ve created it. The significant others that you work with and live with and interact with everyday of your life, are there because you are ‘imaging’ them from a vibratory construct. That’s why parents can have four children, three children, five children, whatever, and there won’t be two of them that will see mother and father the same way. Because, it is ‘your’ image of them and your interaction with that vibratory construct you refer to as mother and father. You set them the way ‘you’ want them so that you can learn.

You know, it’s hard for you to realize that ‘you’ are the teacher in the classroom. You make up the paper. You sit down and you take the test. And ‘you’ grade the test. You’re doing the whole thing. Then you’ll say, ‘but the teacher doesn’t do that’. Well, these are sort of different rules, because the only one that can teach you ‘anything’, is ‘you’. Continue.

JOHN: And her final question is… “If I’m dreaming of a friend, am I actually interacting with my friend or am I just talking to myself?”

DATRE: I think that’s up to you to decide from the information we’ve given you. If you’re interacting with a friend, you’re interacting with a vibration. There’s no ‘space’ and ‘time’. You can be interacting with a friend that is thousands and thousands of miles away – it does not matter. You can be communicating with someone in the dead zone, someone that is a member of your family or someone you are very close to.

But you see, you’ll say, ‘but that person is dead’. No, the body is dead, that person is not dead. So why can’t you communicate with them? You have to make it such a big deal because, ‘well I can’t do that, I can’t communicate with my dead relatives’, because you ‘believe’ you can’t. ‘But they’re dead’. No, they’re not – the body is dead – they are not dead. There’s no way you can be dead – it’s an impossibility. Continue.

JOHN: That was it.

DATRE: All right, we thank you.

We are Datre.

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Datre 171 – Fate is a belief system

Datre answers Yaniv and Jan(Datre171)

JOHN: Today we have some questions from Yaniv, and the first question is… “Datre say’s that everything that happens to us happens because we want it to. But is everything that happens to us our creation, or are there any “random occurrences” or things that happen because of “fate”?”

DATRE: No! Fate is a ‘belief’ system. Things that happen to you are things you set up for your learning experiences. You can say, ‘I was walking across the street and a car was ready to hit me, and the next thing I knew, I was on the other side of the street’. What happened? That is for you to try and understand. That is a good lesson right there. Why didn’t the car hit you? How come you’re on the other side of the street? And you don’t think you’re powerful? You don’t understand your GRANDNESS. Look how ‘grand’ you are. You immediately transported yourself out of harms way. Why did you put the car there to hit you? There’s a lesson there to be learned.

You see you don’t realize what you are doing. That takes a little attention. You probably would have said, ‘boy that was a close call, I ran as fast as I could and I got on the other side of the street and I didn’t get hit’. The brain is putting it together and telling you that, and you go along and pay no attention to it. Yet, in that one instance, there is grand learning.

In your living, you don’t pay attention to what’s happening. You’re giving yourself ‘signs’ and ‘signals’ all the time, and you insist in belittling your GRANDNESS. You are the “creator” of your physicality and everything within your physical world – everything in it – and you’re not paying any attention, and you’re still thinking – ‘I’m nothing, I don’t amount to anything’. How GRAND are you? Take a look and see. Continue.

JOHN: The next and last question from Yaniv is… “In a recent Datre you said, “So, to find what is a cause of a boil, what is a cause of a cancer, is not for other people to figure out…” If we are here to experience and understand physicality, why would we set up situations that are so difficult to figure out, or possibly never figure out?”

DATRE: Well, you are doing it. You will set for yourself what you want to learn. That was one person – that set up a boil. Another person sets up a cancer. Another one has an automobile accident. Another one will have a grand time climbing a mountain. Another one will become a billionaire, because they enjoy making money. Another one will become a great scientist. Another will become a musician – a mediocre musician – but enjoying every minute of life. You set the stage and you play it. But you don’t realize that it is a ‘grand’ experience.

Why do you put these things in front of you? Because you want to learn. That is all. You’ll say, ‘well physicality is so tragic’. Well, which way are you looking at it? You’ve heard the saying – the cup is either half full or its half empty. It is how ‘you’ perceive. It has nothing to do with what anyone else thinks, does, or anything else. No one can do anything ‘to’ you. You have to learn ‘why’ you did something. Some people will never find out why they did a certain thing. And why won’t they figure it out? Because it wasn’t that important in their learning. They thought it was but it may have been just an incident and they had picked up the meaning of it at that time – and that was fine. If you didn’t, you don’t dwell on it, because then you’re carrying baggage.

Every day of your life should be as brand new. And you’ve heard the concept over and over again, and you wake up in the morning and say, ‘well, I’m still here and things haven’t changed’. You don’t know where you are, because if you set that up in front of yourself, that’s what your brain’s going to record. If you set it up as a brand new day, then go out and see what happens. It doesn’t have to be the same as yesterday. The only time it’s the same as yesterday, is if you tell the brain it is. Continue.

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JOHN: Now we have some questions from Jan, and the first question is… “My understanding is that we create our own concept of God, feeling that there must be something larger than ourselves, which is in fact our ‘whole’ being or entity. But, is there a true original CREATOR?”

DATRE: No! None that we are aware of. Because we never question that part of our existence. We, like you, are in the process of experiencing, because that’s all there is. So, you see, you set everything by ‘time’, we don’t know what ‘time’ is – we have no idea. Everything is an experience and there’s no ‘time’ put on it. So we have – what you would call – forever ness in any direction you want to go in. Everything is NOW, how can there be anything else? Continue.

JOHN: And the next question is… “Was there a BEGINNING, as we understand it, and will there be an ENDING, as far as the current structure of the universe is concerned?”

DATRE: Why should there be? When you walk out of this body, with full understanding of what physicality is all about, what are you going to do? You’re still ‘you’. You are a – what they call – FOREVER being. You were, you are, you will be – that’s NOW, today, what ever you want to call it. So where’s the end? And where’s the beginning? Continue.

JOHN: And following that is the question… “The hierarchy of the dead zone, as given, for example, by the Urantia Book, along with the attendant explanation of earth history.. As a constructed reality, what true effect does this have on us if any?”

DATRE: None! What do you believe? Do you ‘believe’ its going to effect you? In what way? How? What difference does it make? What difference does it make… you’re sitting there, you’re thirsty, what difference does it make to the answer to that question as to whether you get up and go and get a drink of water or not? It has nothing to do with that, it has nothing to do with anything. If you want to delve into history and are fascinated by it, and learn by it whatever you want to learn, that is up to you. History is ‘his’ story. If you want to believe ‘his’ story, that is entirely up to you.

There are many people who like history. It gives them a feeling of ‘solidity’. It gives them a feeling of ‘groundedness’. In other words, ‘I have a past so I feel comfortable’.

Now, take that individual and take away the ‘past’ and take away the ‘future’ and that person goes mad – because they don’t ‘understand’. Its an understanding and ‘knowing’ that you ‘release’ and enjoy. And the more you understand, the more you release, the more you enjoy, the more you will understand. Until you get to the point, why stay and play this silly game any more? ‘I need a new game to play’. And you will decide, ‘I’ve figured it all out’. It is like playing any game. You play a game of chess and when you get to the end of the game, what do you do? You’re finished.

You can look at physicality and your existence ‘in’ physicality as a game of chess. Figuring it out what its all about. When you’ve figured out what it’s all about, why play the game? Why stay around and watch the circus? It’s no longer appealing.

Now as to earth’s history, there is none. There is no one, even in the dead zone that can go back to the “beginning”. In your recorded history, which is as far back as you can go; death is a comparatively ‘new’ adventure. When information comes from the dead zone that is as far back as they can go and physicality goes back a lot further than that. Continue.

JOHN: And then follows on with… “In other words, does it have an effect, even if I choose not to believe it?”

DATRE: How could it? If you don’t ‘believe’ it, you don’t believe it. And if you don’t ‘believe’ it, it isn’t. Very simple. Continue.

JOHN: And the next question is… “My understanding is that prophecies are probabilities, and so may or may not occur in my probable life. Are there any prophecies that are absolute, and that will occur no matter what we choose to experience? I am particularly interested in the Mayan Calendar which ends the year 2012, indicating a major change due to occur. I am also very interested if there is a correlation with the Great Pyramid and Sphinx as is being presented by certain groups.”

DATRE: Well, there again, how can you say that a prophecy will happen – regardless? That is rather an oxy-moron. Do you wish to take part in a prophecy? Is that something you wish to experience? Now, if you wish to experience a prophecy that is up to you. If you don’t want to experience a prophecy, that also is up to you. Now, if you don’t want to experience a prophecy – does it happen or doesn’t it? And if it does or it doesn’t, what difference does it make? The decision is always yours. Nothing can happen to you that you don’t want to happen to you.

Its not that anyone is going to do anything ‘to’ you. The choice is always yours – beginning and end. Continue.

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JOHN: What about the Mayan calendar 2012 thing?

DATRE: Now, what happened to the Mayan’s? They ceased their existence as a group of individuals. They prophesied up to 2012. Now, they could not go any further than that – that’s where they stopped.

All right, now, you contract to have a house built. They contracted for a certain period of time for their physicality as a group. Now, you take the house. You contracted to have the house built. And, you got the house built half way and then you put out the boards to continue the second half of the house. You have the foundation for the whole house, but you only have half the house. But you’ve got the boards going out to indicate that there’s going to be more. But the house is only half built.

Their civilization ‘projected’ to 2012. They did not go to 2012. They projected ‘out’ – they stuck boards out there to indicate the finish of the house. But they, themselves, did not continue to that point.

Now, just because the house wasn’t completed, doesn’t mean that you can’t get somebody else to finish the house. They did not complete their contract. They ‘projected’ – but did not complete. That was their decision.

You have projections all the time. And the unfortunate thing about a projection of any kind – be it the Mayan’s, be it Nostradamus or any of those that everyone seems to place much credence in – that from this vantage point, you try and make everything fit. It is like a scientific theory. You play with a theory and play with a theory until you get enough people to agree that your theory has validity – and then it becomes a fact. And how long does that ‘fact’ last? Until somebody comes up with another idea and then that fact is no longer a fact.

You see what you do? You’re relying on others to tell you what is going to happen. They don’t know any more than you do, and do you know why? Because, they’re living ‘their’ reality and you’re living ‘your’ reality. MASS CONSCIOUSNESS is what is going to decide. And if you can get enough people in MASS CONSCIOUSNESS to make that a ‘reality’ then who’s going to buy into it?

Its like we have said before with anything – the holocaust – ‘I was there, it happened’, ‘I was there it didn’t happen’. Why? What do you want to believe?

They talk about major changes in 2012 because they couldn’t see any further than that, they couldn’t project any further. You want change? Watch next year (2001). Your 2000 is soon going to be over – when everything was supposed to happen. Everything was going to happen in the year 2000. Well, 2000 is almost to the end. Now, at the end of 2000 is the whole planet going to disappear? Many thought it would. Many expected all kinds of Saviors and ships and everything else to save them, I don’t know what they wanted to be saved from. But, there was disappointment in those that woke up the next day and found out they were still here.

And now, that is why you have utter confusion on the planet. Because you are still here and you don’t know what to do. The end of the prophecy is almost over. You still have that which you call your Christmas holiday seasons and all your other different things that you’re going to celebrate. And then there’s going to be another let down or another period of joyfulness, depending upon what you as an individual want to experience.

There are those that are planning their lives 2 and 3 years down the road. If you play in a symphony orchestra, you better stay on board, because your whole season and the next 2 and sometimes 3 seasons are all planned for your orchestra. These people don’t wait until tomorrow to make a plan. There’s the difference. Some peoples live their lives always in the future – where they’re going, where they’re going. And other people stay in the NOW and live ‘here’. There again, it’s another choice. Do you want to stay in the NOW and learn and experience from here? Or do you want to project 2 and 3 years down the road, not knowing whether you’re going to be in physicality or not? You see, the choice is yours. What do you want to believe?

There’s something about the pyramids and there’s something about the sphinx and tying all of these things together and the great revelations and all of that. Watch what’s happening today. If everyone would turn off their televisions for one week, one week, and then turn them back on again at the end of the week. See how much has changed. See what you’ve missed. And what you have missed, how has it affected your life? Has it made any change in your life? Try these things, they’re good experiments for you. See what’s really important. The decision is always yours.

As to grand things happening? Yes. MASS CONSCIOUSNESS has got to continually move. It cannot stand still. They need something to ‘drive’ the ‘think’ patterns. The think patterns will not change unless they are driven by some ‘action’ or ‘reaction’. You can’t have things stay the same. You have a very good saying on your planet – ‘you can never go home again’, because, ‘home’ will never be the same. It is an impossibility. So, turn off your TV for a week. Then listen to television or read the paper and find out what you’ve missed. See what a difference that has made in your life. And then you’ll ‘know’ where you are as far as being ‘influenced’ by anything.

JOHN: And the next question is… “What would be the one most useful daily exercise to perform in our quest to expand our understanding of ourselves?”

DATRE: Pay attention. Pay attention to what you’re doing. Are you ‘reacting’ or are you ‘acting’ in any given area? What’s your ‘belief’ system? How does your belief system affect your daily life?

Everyone is interested in what’s in a book, what are the teachings. You’re so used to being ‘taught’ that ‘self’ analyzation is something that doesn’t have a ‘tool’ so you don’t know how to go about it. Everyone will tell you – you do this and this and this and this – and that will happen. There again, your ‘belief’ system will say whether it will or won’t happen. And if you’re in a mode of operation of ‘awareness’ – instead of action, reaction and being ‘aware’ before you do either one – its going to make a difference as to ‘how’ your life is going to work.

You need a ‘belief’ system. That is a necessary element in your development. That is your ‘filter’ system, shall we say. And depending upon the ‘intensity’ of a belief is going to make the difference as to ‘how’ you look at life.

If you tell the brain – ‘oh, I have a pain in my foot’ – and you don’t have anything wrong with your foot, not thing one, before the sun goes down, you will have a pain in that foot – if you tell the brain that this is what’s going to happen. Try some of these things out. Work with your self. It’s so much easier to work with ‘other’ people. Its so much easier to sit down with a deck of cards and say, ‘oh, this is what’s going to happen in your future’. Or a crystal ball. Or a book. Or a mantra. Or a bunch of candles. Or a guru. Or what ever.

You always look to someone else to solve your problems. Turn it around. Solve your own problems. That is why some people are fascinated with life, and others want to get out of here. Remember, I’m addressing every one of you. I’m not singling out the one who’s asking the questions. We need to make that clear every once in a while, so that you don’t turn around to that individual and say, ‘well, that was for them’. It is for each and every one of you. There is no greater teacher than ‘you’. But you don’t recognize your greatness until you begin to ‘see’ what is happening and why it is happening.

Belief systems, to begin with in uncovering and discovering are very simple. But, the further your understanding goes, the more difficult it is to find the beliefs. But, the greater the AH HA when you make the discovery. Continue.

JOHN: And the next and final question is… “On 2 occasions in my lifetime I have been ‘saved’ from death. The first time, during a near fatal car crash, I experienced the car flooded with light, even though it was a dark night outside, and a complete, serene ‘knowing’ that everything would be okay. Time seemed to slow down during this experience. On the second occasion, a horse tied to a post reared, the post came flying out of the ground into the air and was clearly going to come down on my head when I saw a transparent ‘being’, approx. 20 feet tall push the post away with a sweep of ‘his’ arm. The post missed me and the horse immediately calmed down and stood still while I untied him from the post. Again, time slowed down and I was incredibly serene. However, after both incidents, I started shaking at the knees! Was this my ‘larger’ self intervening, or are there actual ‘guardians’ protecting us?”

DATRE: That was not either. It was not a ‘guardian’ and it was not anything else – it was ‘you’ because you didn’t want those experiences. You working with the physical said, ‘I don’t want this’.

Now, you may have wanted that to show you something. Sure, you begin to shake when it was all over, that’s a physical body reaction. That’s the emotional body. But, why was the time slowed down? Why the calmness? That’s the ‘real’ you. The real ‘you’ is without emotion – except when it comes into physicality. That’s the only time that there’s emotion – because, the physical body contains the emotion.

That’s why – as one individual said – they like and dislike Datre because there’s no emotion. Well, that’s because emotion is foreign to us. There’s no reason to have emotions – from our standpoint – because that is a ‘bodily’ reaction. And sometimes there is a bodily reaction – depending upon who comes into the body and is using the body. Because there are those that find the body extremely fascinating, and enjoys the emotion of the body. And then there are those that don’t know what emotion is, have no idea.

So, you see, it is like the fellow that was walking across the street to get hit by a car – and found himself on the other side of the street. You’re telling yourself something all the time. You’re trying to tell yourself – ‘see what I can do with the physical containment’. ‘See how I can work through a physical containment’. Recognize your GRANDNESS – for you are.

God was an ‘invention’ of man. The first Gods were Zeus, etc.. which were all in the image of man. Later, God still maintained a man image, but became ethereal. God was powerful. Among other things, someone to confide in, someone to be afraid of in his wrath, someone to protect you, and on and on as it suited the individual needs. Physicality has one emotion that is stronger than any other – and that is ‘fear’. God will protect and God will punish. Man invented God and now you worship your own invention.

There was a teacher that said, ‘you are God’. Because, that was as grand as the majority of people can think. Take that word, ‘God’, and think of it as what it means to ‘you’, then think of that word as being infinitesimal in comparison to you. That doesn’t fit well with most people. But, you are far GRANDER. The thing you are in physicality for is to ‘discover’ that very thing.

We thank you.

We are Datre.

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