Datre answers Kitty, Robert and Barbara

JOHN: Today we have a question from Kitty, and her question is… “How can you explain visions? Visions appear to me and in a few weeks or months they happen.?”

DATRE: That is not unusual. They are not what you call ‘visions’, but what you’re doing is, you are showing yourself the up coming events. There are many people that do that.

You see, if you were to reach the point where you would be an OBSERVER, you would be “following” your “visions” all the time. That would be a ‘natural’ thing. But, you wouldn’t have this ‘time’ span of a few weeks or a month or whatever. When you begin to connect up, it will almost be like when you ‘see’ something, its almost as if ‘I’ve seen it before’. Because, what you’re doing is, you’re bringing your ‘experiences’ that you are ‘anticipating’ into your physical existence. That is what is happening, it is ‘not’ a vision. It is bringing what ‘you’ want to happen, into physicality. Now, that is very ‘beneficial’, because, when you “see” these things, you will be able to, at that time, decide on many ‘options’ as to how you want to handle that situation.

You see that’s why there’s such a difference in those that live a life of ‘tragedy’ and those that ‘seemingly’ have no bumps in the road. The thing is, that they have had that ability to be able to function from, what you call, ‘now’. Because, when they ‘see’ something happening, regardless of what it is, good, bad or indifferent, it has a ‘familiarity’ to them and they decide as to the option as to how they want handle any situation. Then as that becomes more and more a part of your everyday experience, you no longer question it, because it just something that comes ‘naturally’.

Now, there are those that know ‘how’ to do that, and desire ‘not’ to do that, because that takes away the fun. The ‘fun’ is being surprised by what’s coming up. Now, you have to do one ‘first’, before you can do the other, because, if you don’t do the ‘other’ one, the one that ‘shows’ you what’s coming up, and experience that, then you will never notice the difference. So, when you ‘see’ things and then they happen, that is showing you what you are capable of doing.

You see you don’t have to rely on another person to show you or help you through this physical existence. You do it by yourself. You do it alone. Then in doing it alone, you’ll have that feeling that, ‘I don’t have to rely on another person’. You see, you are all in such a ‘belief’ system, that you have to rely on others – you don’t. Then when you begin to feel that, ‘I don’t need to rely on anyone else, I can be my own person’, it gives you that feeling of ‘security’ that people that don’t understand it don’t have. You become ‘secure’ in the knowledge that, in any given situation, ‘I can handle it. I can handle it because, I will not panic, I will not be afraid of it, because I wouldn’t have put it there in the first place, if I didn’t think I could do it at all. I’m the one that chose the experience, nobody else did it to me’. You chose the experience yourself. And you would ‘not’ have chosen it, if you didn’t think you could master it. Then, in mastering it and feeling that, ‘hey, I did it myself’, you become secure in the knowledge that you don’t have to rely on other people. Enjoy your experiences. Continue.

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JOHN: Now we have a question from Robert, and his question is… “Is there any form we can assume to actually “explore” this physical universe? It is such an amazing and beautiful construct, I know that in these physical bodies we will never really be able to fully experience and explore it, and I would love to be able to “see” all of its wonders!”

DATRE: Well, if you were to get out into the Universe and see all the different planets, all you would see would be planets. You would not be able to experience anything beyond that point. If there was ‘life’ on the planet, you couldn’t see them anyway, because they would be of a different vibratory construct. You see, the Beings from ‘outer space’ are nothing but “you” and you don’t realize it.

But, the thing is, why would one go and look for things in the Universe? Because, it is not ‘grander’ out there than it is here. Do you ever stop to realize the GRANDNESS ‘of’ this planet? That is why you’re ‘not’ going to come back on this planet, because ‘others’ want to have the experience ‘of’ this planet, which is ‘unique’ and very different. But, you’re all sick and tired of it. You don’t realize the ‘evolution’ that has taken place on this planet. The ‘evolution’ of all your plants, your animals, your birds, your fish, plus you humans. You have many, many, things that are beautiful, and yet you’re so tired of them, because you’ve had them for so long. And yet, you’ve never stopped to realize the beauty in any of it.

They laugh at those that used plants and animals to give them answers to things. That is something that you don’t even think about experiencing. You don’t experience the ‘exchange’ of energy between you and a tree. When you see a great big beautiful old tree, do you ever stop to think of all the experiences in the growth of that tree? Experiencing the wind, the rain, all the peoples that walk by that big old tree, the energy exchange? No! People don’t stop to ‘realize’ that – so it’s a tree. But, when you see that big old tree and realize the experiences that that big old tree has had, from “it’s” standpoint of evolution, you feel like you want to give it a big hug.

You see, you treat a big old tree like you treat your old people. Old people are in your way. You don’t look to older people to benefit from their experiences. That is something you have gotten away from. ‘I want to do it myself’. That is fine, you can do ‘everything’ by yourself, but do you realize the ‘wealth’ of experience that is contained within an individual who has lived 80 – 90 years? The experiences they have had that you can gain by talking to them. You see, that is something in ‘your’ country (USA), you have never thought much about. There are ‘other’ cultures, especially the Orientals, who admire those that they call the ‘aged’ people. They admire them because of their experiences and what they can gain by listening to those individuals.

Now, that does not mean that that is something that you have to go to somebody that’s older and say, ‘well, what do I do now?’. That is not the point. They will not tell you what to do now. They have to tell you what ‘they’ have experienced, and let you figure out what ‘you’ want to experience. An old tree, and old people, are beautiful. But they’re beautiful in a different way. They’re beautiful from the experiences that they have had.

That’s what you’re doing, you are gaining experiences through that which you call a ‘life time’. Treasure every one of them. There’s nothing out there in the Universe that you can see. You have telescopes, you have all these other kinds of things to look out there and speculate what’s out there, and maybe I can get up in a little piece of ‘tin’ and go ‘whoosh’ out there in the atmosphere and look around the Earth and then come down and have that grand experience. Maybe an experience is just as grand if you get in an airplane, or if you get on a train, or if you get in a car. But, because you’re not going ‘away’ from humanity, it’s no fun.

You see how differently we look at things than you do? You want to do something that ‘other’ people don’t do. And that is fine. And if you learn to get out of your body, you can leave your body and travel and see lots of different things. If you want to get out of your body, you can go into that which you call, a ‘past’ life. You don’t have to have anybody take you. It’s ‘yours’, you can go there. You can do anything you want to do. But what grounds every one of you is ‘fear’, that is the big number.

You see, because you put yourself in a piece of ‘tin’ and say, ‘this is safe, I can go out in the universe in a piece of tin, because it ‘safe’, and I can go around the Earth many, many times and then come down, and I’m safe.’. You’re safe because you’re surrounded by a piece of tin. You’re used to pieces of tin, because that’s your automobiles. You see, you’re moving in a piece of tin, which is a car, you are safe, no fear. You get into a piece of tin and go up into what you call your atmosphere and go around, and around and come back down again – no fear, you’re in a piece of tin. Listen to that very carefully. You have ‘fear’, otherwise you wouldn’t have a piece of tin around you.

Getting out of the body and going places is ‘fearful’ for those that try it. Many experimented with it. There are those that go out of body very readily, very easily. And there are those that you can’t get to move two inches away from the body, because the ‘fear’ holds them in. Realize who you are. You’re ‘not’ the body. You don’t have to take the body with you to experience. The experiential part of your body is the ‘you’ that occupies it. You have grand experiences at night, but you don’t ‘dare’ tell yourself about it. You’re NOT your body, so explore. Get out of your body, go places and see things. That’s why there’s these people that very readily get out of their bodies and go to different countries, do different things, experience different things. They can ‘look’, they can ‘see’, but you see, they do not have the ‘fear’ of being out of body.

So, from our standpoint, you’re not going to see anything but pieces of ‘rock’ out in the universe anyway. Why not get out of your body now, and go and experience and go to another country and see what they’re doing. Maybe they’ve got a festival or something that you can stay there and watch. Nobody’s going to bother you, because they can’t see you, you don’t have a body. You can stay there and watch as long as you want to or until your body calls you back. Your body will pull you back when ‘it’ wants something. So, have fun. Continue.

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JOHN: Now, we have some questions from Barbara, and her first question is… “I understand that if I experience something horrible, it was me alone who set up that scenario, so the best thing I can do is try and find out what I wanted to show myself by this. Now, Datre have often said that animals are completely different from humans. So if an animal is tortured and mistreated – what’s the deeper sense in that? Is this situation the animal’s free choice, and are the possible reasons for this choice similar, or completely different from those of a human?”

DATRE: We do not know, because we have never been able to get inside of an animal, per se. In other words, the animals work from an entirely different construct than you do. You each have individual ‘bodies’ and individual ‘brains’ that you function from. Animals have individual bodies, but they function basically through what you would call a ‘group’ mind. So you see, their experiences are entirely different.

If an animal is going to die, the animal is smart enough to get out of the body, so it doesn’t have to experience the ‘pain’ of the bodily death. Why does an animal run out onto the road to be killed by a car? They do that, because they don’t want the body any more, they can go pick up another one. You see their construct of the body being a ‘sacred’ vehicle doesn’t occur to them.

Because you have had so many cartoon characters and so many films that have placed ‘human’ thoughts and feeling into animals, that you think of animals functioning as a ‘human’. They have characteristics that they will pick up from a ‘human’, but they don’t ‘function’ as a ‘human’. So, if an animal is being tortured, an animal will do one of two things; if it is possible to get away, it will get away; if it isn’t possible to get away, when its had enough, it will leave the body.

But, you can’t put human ‘physical’ thoughts and emotions into an animal body and expect it to act like that, because, it doesn’t – its entirely different. That is all I can tell you about the animal body. Continue.

JOHN: And she further goes on to ask… “Especially the fear of the unknown seems to be something immanent and very basic in almost every human being. How come? Is there any reason for fear? Can anything (for example our ignorance, or our curiosity) do us harm, e.g. when waking up out-of-body?”

DATRE: Fear is the one thing that holds you more tightly than any other ’emotion’ that you have. And the ‘only’ thing that eliminates fear, is understanding. When you understand, you realize what this is all about, the ‘fear’ is eliminated – it’s as simple as that.

Now, waking up and finding that you’re out of body – why should you be afraid? You’ve been ‘out of body’ all night, you just happen to wake up before you had a physical containment. I think we answered the question on that, just the one a couple of questions ago on getting ‘out of body’.

You see, when the “body” puts itself in a ‘sleep’ mode, it sets itself to the point of ‘inactivity’ as far as the body is concerned. Then when that ‘inactivity’ of the body functions are slowed down, then ‘you’ know that you can leave the body. It’s something that ‘you’ and your ‘body’ have arranged. But, you don’t understand what ‘sleep’ is all about. Sleep is not a ‘mystical’ thing at all.

Let’s turn this around and see if this will help you. When you lay down at night, say to the body, ‘now, I have other places to go and other things to do. So as soon as you’re ready, you let me know. But I’ll be back to see you again in the morning’. Then when the body relaxes, you leave. You don’t have to lie there and say, ‘I wonder if this is going to work?’ It does work. You do it all the time. You’re not ‘aware’ of what this ‘system’ is all about. So, you’re showing yourself, when you come back, and you’re looking at the body, you’re showing yourself that you’ve been out of it. Then if you say, ‘okay, I’m ready to get back in’, it will happen automatically. You don’t have to ‘panic’. Panic is what causes so many things to go awry in your physical existence.

When they say the body is tied up in ‘knots’, it actually is. Because, you have put yourself in such a mode of ‘stress’ that the body is all full of ‘knots’. Knots restrict circulation. Where do you suppose all your aches and pains and your diseases and all of this comes from? It’s ‘restriction’ caused by all the ‘knots’ in your body. Now, from our standpoint, we see you as ‘squiggly’ lines. Now, the ‘squiggly’ lines, the vibratory construct of your physical body, as we see it, the ‘straighter’ the lines are, we know that that body is in better physical condition. If we see ‘squiggly’ lines with a whole bunch of ‘knots’ in it, we know that body is in ‘bad’ shape – because, you can actually ‘see’ the ‘knots’. And the ‘knots’ are not tied by anyone but ‘you’.

If you live in a ‘relaxed’ OBSERVER mode within the body, you don’t have the ‘knots’. Then they’ll say, ‘that person is in such good health’. Well, is that an ‘outward’ appearance or is it an ‘inward’ appearance? We can see someone that is supposed to be in ‘vibrant’ health, but, from our vantage point – if we get out of the body we’re in at the present time (Aona) – we can ‘see’ all the ‘knots’ and know that person is NOT in very good health. The runner that runs down the street and drops ‘dead’ – as you call it – from a heart attack, and they said, ‘he was in perfect health’, you didn’t see all the ‘knots’ in his body. He may have ‘appeared’ to be in perfect health, but he may have been all stressed out on the inside – that’s where it counts.

But you see, ‘you’ have done that through the physical construct, the physical construct doesn’t start out with all the ‘knots’ unless ‘you’ put them there. So continue.

JOHN: And her next and final question is… “Datre have mentioned that concerning the exploration of new experiences “pushing” is not advisable, that it’s better to “allow”. But where does “pushing” begin? Do I already “push” instead of “allow” if I ignore my fear of the unknown and give in to my curiosity? And what may happen if I “push”?”

DATRE: Well, we’re saying, “pushing” in one context in particular. That is that so many individuals now seem to be ‘tied’ up again in what you call the kundalini being the grandest of grand. That’s why we say, the “pushing” is not important. What is most important is, that ‘you’ become the OBSERVER. Get yourself out of that which you call stress and begin to connect up with the “YOU” that ‘you’ truly are in the body. WHO you are, when you’re out of the body and WHO you are when you’re “in” the body, are two different things. And, only by ‘allowing’ and OBSERVING are you going to relax that body enough to allow you to be able to ‘function’ the way you want to function – its as simple as that.

You don’t have to stress yourself out, to ‘allow’ or get yourself to go into kundalini, to eliminate the ‘fear’ of going out of body. You see, all of those things… they may say, ‘well, you need to do this in order to do that’. No! That’s not necessary. It’s ‘not’ necessary, you don’t ‘have’ to go through the kundalini in order to take part in the BIRTH and get to where ‘you’ want to go. That is not that important. A lot of people try to get themselves to go through the kundalini and ‘crack’ their PSYCHE and are out of commission for years. What benefit is that? Or to sit down and tell somebody, ‘oh, I’ve done this and oh, I’ve done this and you don’t know the pain I went through in order to achieve that’. Why?

What we’re trying to do is, give you the ‘easy’ way to get the ‘experiences’ that ‘you’ want. To be able to enjoy the ‘experiences’ that you get. To be able to get ‘understanding’ from your experiences. Rather than grunt and groan and do all kinds of things in order to get yourself into an area that can be gotten into very simply. Those were the ‘old’ methods. You don’t need ‘old’ methods. You don’t have a ‘sextant’ on a boat to figure out where you are, you have a great big bank of computers to run the boat. Different? Yes! Ridiculous statement? No! It’s ‘not’ a ridiculous statement. Why use ‘old’ antiquated things to get to where you are? You, in your progression, have ‘done’ that. Why go ‘back’ to it? Why not go ‘forward’? That is what we are trying to ‘tell’ you, there’s an easier way. Continue.

JOHN: That was the last one.

DATRE: All right, we thank you.

We are Datre.

Datre answers Claude.

JOHN: Today we have some questions from Claude and his first question is… “For most human, saying that time as we know it, with a past, present and future, doesn’t really exist, is very hard to understand.”

DATRE: Now, have we ever said that ‘time’… there was no ‘past’, ‘present’ or ‘future’? Because, in every physical existence you have that as a remembrance. Because, as you live today, you remember when you live tomorrow that you had today. You see you can always look backward you can’t look forward, because you don’t have that ‘sight’ that sends you ‘forward’ into your own future.

Now, what happens is, that you have been living in that which you call ‘time’ and we have said that ‘time’ has run out as far as the original set up was concerned. In other words, your ‘past’ – your ‘time’ element – the BIRTH ‘should’ have occurred at the ending of your ‘time’ cycle.

It’s like reading a book. You have to have a beginning, you have to have a middle and you have to have an end. In any ‘engineered’ reality – like the one that you are in – there is a ‘beginning’, there’s a ‘middle’ and there’s an end. Now, you have reached the ‘end’ of your book. But, none of you have ‘realized’ that you have ended the book.

Vibratory levels will be increased to help you with your understanding and ‘knowing’ that you are out of ‘time’. That is what will happen. But, you are so used to a ‘linear’ existence that you are still functioning with that very thought pattern. So, continue.

JOHN: And he further continues and say’s… “I have read in ‘Conversation with God’ that instead of visualizing it as an horizontal line, we should rather see it a vertical way, as a note-pick. It is easier to conceive from that point.”

DATRE: That is easier for you to conceive because you’ve always believed that there’s something ‘higher’ than you are. So, everything that you conceive of in your thought patterns, you think of as ‘up’. The higher it is the better it is, the grander it is. It doesn’t work that way. You can set up your ‘time’ lines in whatever way you want to. You can set up your ‘0500’s’ all the way to your ‘1900’s’ in whatever direction you want. But, actually, it’s all very ‘simultaneous’. But, you have ‘separated it so you don’t get confused. You have narrowed it down to the ‘minutest’ quantity for your understanding. For you to conceive that ‘complexity’, your brain would go off line totally, because it has nothing that it can relate to. Your physical brain cannot contain that sort of understanding. So, continue.

JOHN: He further continues and asks… “Now with that concept, all the events of our past, future or even past lives become accessible to us, or can at least be visualized. But, can they be changed without altering the life of relatives implicated in the same event?”

DATRE: Why would you want to ‘change’ anything? Every event that has occurred through your individual ‘life’ – ‘death’, ‘life’ – ‘death’ process has brought you to where you are now. You go back and change one iota, and you change your whole ‘future’. You could very well end up being something you don’t desire to be.

You see, that is the same misconception as, before people die, ‘oh, if only I had had time to do this’, ‘oh, if only I had done this, instead of that’, ‘believe me, if I ever have a chance to do this again, this is what I’ll do’. In the mean time, you forget all about it, you come back in, totally erased the whole thing – because you didn’t want to take any of your ‘sins’ back in with you – so you gave all your ‘bad’ experiences – as you call them – away, so you don’t have an awful lot to come back with. And, you’ve totally lost any direction, so you come back in as ‘totally’ oblivious to what you were last time. And you continue to do that, because you don’t maintain any continuity.

If you were to take your ‘life – ‘death’ processes in a continuum, and ‘build’ on them, you’d be sitting out there at the edge of the ‘bubble’ someplace enjoying watching the show until the BIRTH came. And picking up the Universal information that you could, from the ‘outside’ of the ‘bubble’ to incorporate with ‘you’. But, because of the total ‘oblivion’, from one – what you call life span – to another ‘life’ span, you come back with nothing every time. And we’ve said it, time and time again. So why change anything? You’re where you are – ‘build’ on it. Every experience that you have is to be ‘built’ upon. That’s what ‘experience’ is all about.

Everybody thinks that you have to have a ‘totally’ blissful life, all happiness, and love. life, laughter, oh hugs and kisses and love all over the place. You don’t want any of the ‘other’ stuff – why not? It’s like taking a chair with four legs and putting two legs on it and saying, ‘now, sit down’. You’ve only got two back legs to set the chair on. What’s going to happen to the front of you, you’re going to tip forward. You need four legs underneath the chair to round it out, so that you can sit on it. You want to take one leg of a chair – eliminate the other three – and fall flat on your face, because, you haven’t had the ‘experiences’. And you don’t want the ‘experiences’, because they’re ‘bad’, they’re ‘evil’, they’re all the connotations that you’ve put on them. Continue.

JOHN: His next question continues and say’s… “I have seen in a television program (base supposedly on true facts) that two or more persons can be tied in the same matter that what one does, has an effect on others. If yes, could it be reincarnations at the same time level?”

DATRE: It has nothing to do with reincarnation; it has to do with MASS CONSCIOUSNESS. That’s how you get ‘tied’ together. Also, you get tied together with genetics. So there’s a lot of different ‘ties’. But I don’t understand what you’re talking about when you say tied together in the same manner, that does not make sense to me, I don’t know what that manner is.

JOHN: I think its his grasp of English grammar… its like the twin thing. One twin hurts themselves and the other twin feels the pain.

DATRE: That is ‘genetics’. All right, fine, that is genetics. There are also those relationships with ‘other’ individuals that have been “in other – what you call – lifetime’s”, but it has nothing to do with reincarnation, because that is an ‘existing’ sequence of events.

JOHN: Its either an ‘aspect’ or a ‘face’.

DATRE: That is correct. Continue.

JOHN: And he further continues and asks… “I really try to become an OBSERVER, and notice that I sometime get a direction on what I should work on. But it seems I am a long way behind becoming a film director. Unexpected and painful events still occur in my life on which it is not easy to find why I created those situations. Help me become a great director.”

DATRE: The thing is, that you can only live one day at a time. You don’t have to be ‘working’ on anything – but OBSERVING ‘everything’. You can’t eliminate the “bad things” in your life. You will learn more from the “bad things” than you do from the “good things” – because it makes a ‘bigger’ impact on the physical existence. That’s why, when people go back into their ‘life times’ and they think about what they’ve done in this life time what pops up more often than not? The things that they didn’t like. The things that were ‘tragedies’ in their lives. The things that they did that they called “wrong”. ‘If I had only done ‘this’, instead of that’. Why didn’t you? How are you ever going to learn?

There is something very interesting about those that work on any type of ‘project’ of any kind. Be it a ‘craft’, be it a ‘computer’, or be it a piece of ‘wood’, anything that you do. Where do you learn? You learn when you make a mistake. If you hit a wrong note on a violin, it’s a mistake. You learn the next time you play that passage, when you come to that note, you’ll spot it, and you won’t do it again. See, it’s by ‘mistakes’, doing something that you call “wrong” is how you learn. This is what the process is all about. Continue.

JOHN: His next question asks… “Maybe I am wrong, but I think I disclosed impatience in some of your last interventions, as the questioner tried to get information on our everyday physical life. To me it is the base to understand what we do and why we do it. All of us would like to be a step before, but we have to follow our own way. So please keep repeating, as we human are slow in understanding.”

DATRE: Well, the thing is, you see, the way that you use your words is sometimes very difficult for us. Your words are so very limited. When we are doing these transcripts, many times there are long pauses, because, we are trying to find words that ‘work’, to explain things to you. We are not ‘impatient’ with you. We are trying to explain different aspects to you, each time putting a different ‘slant’ on it for you to understand. But, in trying to do that, its very difficult, because you haven’t the ‘words’ that we want to explain to you.

It is like when we did the last transcript, and trying to find ‘something’ in physicality that would help you understand that a HOLOGRAM that ‘you’ work with as a HOLOGRAM in physicality for your bodies, is ‘not’ the same as a “hologram” that is ‘refracted’ light that ‘your’ “holograms” are. The HOLOGRAMS for your bodies are an ‘electrical’ construct. We’ve said before, we see you as ‘wiggly’ lines. We see you as a ‘vibratory’ construct. The only thing that we can use is those terminologies. That’s why the laptop computer screen (LCD) was the best thing that we could find, and it has taken us a long time to locate something that we could refer to. Because, a regular computer screen does ‘not’ give you the same thing that we were looking for. That is why it is difficult for us to explain to you. But we are ‘never’ dissatisfied or anything else, by the repetition of the questions. Because, you see, for us it is a ‘challenge’ to try to explain to you, what we OBSERVE when we come into a physical construct.

You see, we can’t ‘see’ anything. We can’t ‘do’ anything, until we enter a physical construct. And that is a ‘challenge’ for us. To be able to find words to explain a situation. So if it sounds like we are unhappy or ‘puzzled’ by things, it’s because, we ‘are’ puzzled in trying to find the ‘proper’ explanation.

Sometimes, if we have something coming up – we have transcripts ahead sometimes – and if we have something coming up, we have more or less of a pattern that we follow. That’s why sometimes it takes longer for us to answer your questions, because we try and – with the questions – get a flow. See, we have no idea where you’re looking for answers to ‘what’ questions. So until we get questions, we don’t know what to do. Then when we get questions we set them up in an order so that they will have some continuity.

So you see, you are faced with challenges every day in the physical construct. We have just very short periods of time ‘within’ a physical construct to try and put words together that don’t adequately explain a situation. So, without your questions, there would be no need for Datre, remember that. It’s like those that stand on a stage, if there were no audience, why would they act out the play? So, continue.

JOHN: He further goes on to ask… “Our planet is apparently going to Birth, and those who are ready will follow her in the same direction, but there would be another planet for those who are not, on which they will continue their path. Any comments?”

DATRE: Well, you’re not going to have ‘any’ contact with this Earth. Earth is not going to be… this planet has been a planet for a certain type of experience. You won’t come back to this planet. Why would you? You’ve already had, I don’t know how many hundreds and hundreds of thousands of thousands of years to experience ‘this’ particular planetary existence. You will have ‘other’ planetary existences. But they’re not going to be like this. Why would they be? One planetary existence may be somewhat similar, but the ‘concept’ of the learning on ‘that’ planetary existence will ‘not’ be the same as here. In other words, here you have ‘black’ and ‘white’ and ‘day’ and ‘night’ and ‘good’ and ‘bad’ and all of this as your construct for evolution on ‘this’ planetary existence. Now, those patterns, that construct, is not necessarily going to be the same.

There may be ‘similarities’ to begin with. But, there again, if a ‘time’ line is so desired – in other words, a beginning a middle and an end – to be put on that existence, then you will have different ‘thoughts’, different ‘constructs’ of evolution that you will work with. That will take you in, maybe, a more ‘accelerated’ existence. We do not know. That is in the process of being decided.

There will be ‘other’ planets that will do different… every planet is different. Every planetary ‘existence’ is different. So, what happens here is, you have such a grand ‘array’ of many different ‘life’ forms. You have ‘humans’, you have ‘birds’, you have ‘fish’, you have ‘animals’, you have ‘trees’, you have all sorts of things that are ‘all’ evolving – all at the same time. As a TV program recently said, the one area you have not explored, is the water.

There again, you see, your thought patterns are going ‘up’. So what do you do? You go in a space ship and ‘up’ you go. Up is ‘bigger’ and grander. But those that go ‘down’ into that which you call your water, found it is a whole new world which no one has ever bothered to explore. Now you are getting equipment so that you can take the physical construct and go down. And people are having a ‘grand’ time. They’re finding something new, different, interesting. Something ‘different’ to explore.

You have many things on your planet that now that you’re getting to ‘end’ of shall we say ‘time’ here – which of course, there isn’t any more – that you’re just finding out about. It’s been here all the time. But your evolution has been, in some respects, comparatively slow. What you ‘originally’ came here to do, could have been done in a very short period of ‘time’ if anyone had paid attention. But, you went in so many ‘different’ directions, that you got ‘completely’ lost, and you’re still fumbling around.

So, when the BIRTH comes, changes will be made. But, as to coming back here, it will ‘not’ be. But you see, it’s no different than when you ‘die’. When you come back, after that which you call ‘death’, do you remember who your mother and father were the last time you were in physicality? No! And that’s only a matter of less than a hundred years – probably fifty years. Is about all you can maintain without ‘blinking off’ or deciding to ‘reenergize’ your HOLOGRAM by going back into physical existence in the ‘living’ stage again. And you don’t have any remembrance of that. So, you won’t have any physical… you will have ‘different’ experiences in experiential patterning’s that will be a ‘sort’ of remembrance that you can ‘build’ on. But, as far as remembering anything here in ‘specifics’ and what happened on Earth, you won’t. It isn’t necessary. Experience is experience.

We don’t even have a brain to put anything in. And yet, all we do is ‘do’. And that is a concept you cannot understand. But to us, that is it. Someone say’s what do you do? ‘Well, I do what I do, but I can’t explain what I do’. But we each have things that we do. We are BIRTHED to ‘do’ something. There’s never a ‘nothing’, because if we find a ‘nothing’ we’re going to do something with it to make ‘something’. That’s the first step, in being a ‘creator’. That’s why it’s often called ‘sandbox one’, because, learning from physicality to be a ‘creator’ is the ‘beginning’. Some of you are pretty good at it too. Anyway, continue to the next question.

JOHN: He continues on and asks… “If I follow this scale: body, spirit, psyche, the you that you are, do I have the good picture? Then, is the you that you are in the big Universe?”

DATRE: No, the YOU that ‘you’ are is not in the big Universe, it doesn’t have to be. It continues in your BUBBLE. That is why you can make contact with it when you go to sleep at night. If it was ‘outside’ the BUBBLE, you couldn’t make contact. But, you make contact at night. That’s when you set up what you want to do, what you want to experience. The YOU that ‘you’ are will show you what’s available for what you want to experience and what you want to learn. In other words, let’s put it very simply, it is like you go to your teacher and you say, ‘this is what I want to learn as an end result’. And the teacher will say, ‘all right, these are your options. You can take this, you can take this, you can take this. And any one of these will give you the experience you want, and it will give you the information that you want for that experience.’

Same thing, you go to the YOU that ‘you’ are and say, this is what I would like. The YOU that ‘you’ are – doesn’t ‘say’ it – but will layout what you can experience to achieve that you want to achieve in physicality. But, it’s that little thing we’ve talked about before. Getting up out of bed in the morning and filling your head with all kinds of things and getting yourself all stressed out with the “have-too’s”. And ‘not’ getting the message through that you ‘want’ to get through. That’s why so many lives are in disarray. They’re so stressed out and so hyper, so ‘I’ve got to do this, I’ve got to do that, I don’t have any time’. You split your ‘time’ into the tiniest parts available, to push yourself and push yourself and push yourself.

And so that’s why we say, get up in the morning and be an OBSERVER. That does not mean that you have to sit and meditate or contemplate, or anything else. Get out there and ‘do’ whatever needs to be done, but ‘watch’ what’s happening.

You know, when you stop and think of all the years that you’ve had on this planet and all the ‘layers’ of ‘do’s’ and ‘don’ts’, ‘goods’ and ‘bed’s’, belief systems add infinitum, and then you expect that in probably a month or a year to have all the answers, it can not be done. But then, don’t be hard on yourself, because ‘everything’ you learn is to your advantage – its ‘all’ experience. You don’t have to get ‘out’ of here to have experience. You’ve got a ‘multitude’ of experiences – ‘good’, ‘bad’ or indifferent. Nobody ‘labels’ them but you. Of course, your relatives and your friends will try, but you’re the only one that needs to label them. Just remember, it’s all experience. Continue.

JOHN: And his next and final question is… “Is it true that our DNA has been manipulated, so that we lost a lot of our capacity to recognize the spiritual things and had to work with fear and survival?”

DATRE: No! If anybody manipulated the DNA, you did it yourself. Nobody… I don’t know where this concept comes from, that there’s somebody ‘out there’ manipulating your body. This is not an unusual question. It comes up time and time again. NO ONE manipulates your body. Energies are coming on the planet. It is how “you” use the energies. We have said many times, water is a very unique substance. Water can be drunk. Water can be washed in. Water can be cooked with. You can sit by a stream and watch it. You can get into it and bathe in it. You can do all these different things with water. On the ocean you can put boats on it. In the hydroelectric plants, you make electricity with water. You do a lot of things with water. But water does not change, water is water.

The same thing with your HOLOGRAM. Your HOLOGRAM is your HOLOGRAM. What ‘you’ do with your HOLOGRAM is entirely up to you. There is ‘nobody’ manipulating it. The YOU that ‘you’ are does ‘not’ manipulate your HOLOGRAM. The only time the HOLOGRAM’S can have any work done on it at all, is when ‘you’ are in the body working it.

Now, the body has it own agenda – granted. It will take care of itself while you’re sleeping. It will roll itself over and everything else. But, if your body is thirsty in the middle of the night, it will wake you up to get a drink of water. There are sleepwalkers, yes. But they usually have their own agenda. They don’t get up and drink water.

So you see, the DNA is ‘not’ manipulated by anyone. The energies used by ‘you’ in connection with your physical body, can change your DNA, your RNA, whatever. It has been often changed since you came on the planet. Its in constant change. But, nobody does it, except the indwelling entity which is ‘you’. It’s not done by anyone else.

So, maybe that will help put that one to rest, I don’t know. If there are any more questions we’ll be most happy to answer them. Did you say that was the final question?

JOHN: Yes.

DATRE: We thank you.

We are Datre.

Datre answers Kevin.

JOHN: Today we have some questions from Kevin, and his first question is… “I’m trying to better understand the nature of holograms. Datre says that our holograms are being changed by the energies/frequencies/waveforms entering our planetary bubble. Our holograms are also being maintained by the “YOU that you are”. To what extent are our holograms under the control of our “singularity” vs. the influence of the Universe and its Entities?

DATRE: Well, first of all, your HOLOGRAM is ‘yours’. This is what you are functioning from.

Now, the HOLOGRAM, once it has been started, so we say, when the planetary existence was started for that which you call ‘human’s’, the HOLOGRAM was started and the HOLOGRAM has ‘evolved’ – because that is your “electrical” system that you function from. The ‘particles’ are those that belong to the planet. But, the HOLOGRAM is maintained, that does not ever… its never done away with. Once a HOLOGRAM is made, a HOLOGRAM remains a HOLOGRAM.

Now, the YOU that ‘you’ are has many different ‘experiential’ patterning’s going on all at the same time. But it’s very hard for you to understand, and it becomes very complicated. But, you’re not the only one that’s using the HOLOGRAM. Every “aspect” and every “face” in every “time” span reality, that is that particular portion of expression of the YOU that ‘you’ are, it ALL works off of the same HOLOGRAM.

JOHN: And the ‘particles’.

DATRE: Yes, the ‘particles’ too. The ‘particles’ are just ‘rearranged’ by those that want to be using them at whatever time they want to be using them.

Now the closest thing that we can come to describing the HOLOGRAM is a laptop computer screen. It has to be a laptop and we’ll explain.

Now, the screen is the HOLOGRAM. It has hundreds of thousands of active devices that compose the screen (LCD). Now each device responds to a specific signal. When a signal is sent out, each device picks up its own unique signal and activates its own individual color (expression). Now each device, to use the term loosely, is a ‘you’ in physicality, regardless of gender or ‘time’ line.

Now the whole screen is the HOLOGRAM that the ‘YOU that you are’ is using. Each device is unaware of the devices that go into comprising the total picture. No one device is dependent on any other device.

But, you see, the thing is, ‘it’s all pictures’. In other words, its like the HOLOGRAM that you’re using, is standing still. And let’s say that you can only see that which is in ‘front’ of you. But, there is someone else using the ‘same’ HOLOGRAM, that’s looking at a different ‘time’ span and viewing ‘other’ pictures. So that becomes very complicated from ‘your’ standpoint. Its best if you don’t think about those things and just be concerned about what “you” are doing in the HOLOGRAM, at the present time.

Because all this ‘other’ stuff is just going to get you into a state of confusion that’s really not necessary.

That’s why its so easy for you to bring in your “faces” and your “aspects” and your different one’s from different ‘realities’ and different ‘times’ – its because you’re “all” together. Its that you have some… what do they call it here, you have selective amnesia? So like I said, some of this can be very confusing from a ‘physical’ standpoint. And all it does is get the brain confused. And the brain does not have a program in it for understanding. In other words, you’ve only ‘taught’ your brain up to a certain point. And why try and explain to the brain something that… its only if you are working ‘with’ the physical brain and from a physical standpoint, all it does is, like when you have a program that doesn’t function – it just ‘glitches’. And you can’t get anything out of a ‘glitch’.

So, do not be concerned. The thing that’s happening is, what ‘you’re’ experiencing at the present ‘time’, is the changing of the “energies”. The changing of the “energies” changes the “electrical” content of the HOLOGRAM that you are residing within.

Now, the more, what you call, ‘electrical’ content, for lack of a better word, and that’s a horrible analogy, but its the only thing that you’ve got to work with, is the fact that the ‘more’ you contain, for ‘your’ experience, the more you are ‘able’ to experience. In other words, if what you’re experiencing has very little ‘electrical’ content, you’re not going to experience a heck of a lot, because you don’t have the facility to do so. The more ‘electrical’ content that is contained within that which you call, your ‘physical’ body, the ‘finer’ the vibration becomes the more you are able to perceive, because you’re ‘vibrating’ at a faster rate. Vibrating at a faster rate, allows you to “see” and “experience” and “feel” different things, that someone that’s vibrating at a very ‘slow’ rate cannot even be ‘aware’ of.

Someone that’s vibrating at a very ‘slow’ rate of speed does not have as ‘acute’ hearing, or ‘seeing’, ‘tasting’, or ‘touching’, or ‘smelling’, or any of that. None of the physical attributes of the body are ‘enhanced’ by the vibration. So, when it’s a very low vibratory level, you can’t experience a lot.

The faster the ‘particles’ in the HOLOGRAM vibrate to this ‘electrical’ energy shall we call it, the more you will be able to appreciate an experience. That’s all that’s about.

That’s how come people can go into different realities so easily. The vibratory content of their body allows them to get into different realities. The vibratory content of a body that is very ‘slow’ is going to have to stay here. Number one, they’re not ‘interested’ in any research in different realities. But they couldn’t if they wanted to. Because ‘realities’ are separated by ‘vibration’. That’s ALL that separates a reality. That’s what separates you from the ‘dead-zone’ – vibration. So maybe that will help with your understanding. Continue.

JOHN: His next question is… “Also, I’m somewhat confused by the assertion that we exist here as holograms while the planet and other creatures on it do not as they are “realized”. If their material forms are not based upon holograms then how are they maintained?”

DATRE: Being “realized” and maintaining a HOLOGRAM are two different things. Everything here is HOLOGRAPHIC. The fact that something is “realized” has nothing to do with whether it is or is not a HOLOGRAM. Everything that is here is HOLOGRAPHIC.

So, being “realized” is, shall we say… at the time of A BIRTH, on a planetary construct, there are those that are “realized”. At that point, their evolutionary construct is maintained at ‘that’ vibratory level from there on. That’s why we say that a ‘cat’ here, will not necessarily be a ‘cat’ on another planetary existence. Because the ‘vibratory’ construct on different planets, has a great deal to do with the interpretation of the ‘vibration’ upon a planetary construct.

You see, planet’s that are “realized”, maintain a planetary construct. And that is what happens, this planet say, is a “realized” planet. When everyone is off ‘this’ planet, the vibratory construct will be maintained by the planet, so that ‘others’ coming on this planet will have basically the same vibratory construct that ‘you’ had when you came on this planet.

Does that make sense to you John?

JOHN: Yes, in other words, that’s a ‘base’ system.

DATRE: It’s a ‘base’ system, yes, that’s exactly right. Now, that’s what’s going to happen in this BIRTH. There are those that have made the decision that they want to be “realized”. In other words, they are satisfied with what they are at the present time and they wish to maintain ‘that’ particular ‘vibratory’ construct. Then there are others that don’t ‘want’ to be “realized”. But they can ‘both’ go through the BIRTH. It’s a ‘choice’ that is made at the time of the BIRTH, as to what they want to be. Continue.

JOHN: And he further continues and asks… “Datre said recently that we will not ‘blow up our planet’ because it would affect the Universe. This implies that there is some overseeing force/entity governing our activities at an individual or Mass Consciousness level. With the increasing prevalence of nuclear weapons across the globe and destabilization of global politics, the possibility of a nuclear conflict seems much more likely. How would this be avoided/prevented from a Universal standpoint?”

DATRE: Well, now, it does not have to be from a Universal standpoint. You are probably going to have nuclear skirmishes and nuclear wars, to a degree. But, you must realize too, that when you get into those areas, there are going to be those “upon” the planet, in a physical existence, that are “specialists” in these areas, that are going to be able to ‘control’ from ‘that’ point. You see, from a Universal standpoint, we can’t come and put our finger in your… on ‘your’ planet and change things. The only way anything is ‘changed’ upon your planet is to have someone ‘volunteer’ to come into a physical construct, to make ‘changes’ upon your planet.

That is why we have said many times, that it is ‘important’ that the words be said through a ‘physical’ construct. Because that’s the way it can get ‘on’ to your planet. There is no way that the influence can get any other way, except through a ‘planetary’ existence. So if it comes to the point of getting close to blowing up the planet, there are those that do ‘not’ want to see this planet destroyed, or anything else destroyed. And they will ‘volunteer’ to come into physical existence to ‘maintain’ a certain amount of ‘stability’. Continue.

JOHN: And his next question is… “I’m having some difficulty reconciling something: Datre says that our physical bodies are being dramatically changed due to the influx of energies pouring onto the planet. These changes are seemingly intended to help accelerate our evolution. But then at some point in the very near ‘future’, we can expect to all leave our particulate bodies and everything else on this planet behind as we are birthed into a new existence.”

DATRE: Yes, but if you are BIRTHED into a new existence, you will also maintain a certain, shall we say, memory of what your body was like when you were on this planetary existence. You see, what’s happening is, the ‘energies’ are ‘separating’ the “two” different evolutionary ‘paths’.

There are many ‘specialists’ that have come on this planet, that have gotten, shall we say, lost in the morass of things, and do not remember ‘who’ they were.

Now, we’ve said many times that were two “bubbles” that collided. The evolution of the two was two different ‘paths’ of evolution, shall we say. Now, those that are beginning to ‘accelerate’ and are understanding more of Universal information, are ‘separating’ from those that have a ‘different’ evolutionary ‘path’.

Why are ‘you’ interested in things pertaining to the Universe, when the person next to you could care less? It is because you have “two” different evolutionary existences that have worked very well together. But, ‘now’ they need to be separated. Because at the time of the BIRTH, if you don’t have any ‘desire’ to evolve in the area of ‘understanding’ – your planet, your self, the Universe – then you can’t exist on the same planet any more with those that do.

Those that are beginning to ‘be’ interested in ‘evolution’ from the standpoint of ‘knowingness’ and ‘wondering’ and asking ‘why’, they are separating from the ‘others’. You, that are beginning to evolve in that direction, will notice, that those people that at one time you associated with, are no longer within your experiential patterns. Why? You’ve out grown them. You’ve gone a ‘different’ way. And the more that you go a ‘different’ way, the more ‘frustrated’ you’re going to become, because you can’t get the information you want, because the MASS CONSCIOUSNESS is too restricting. And unless the energy changes, so that you can get some ‘freedom’, then you can’t evolve at the rate you ‘want’ to.

That’s why this BIRTH is so important, is to ‘make’ that separation. To put those of one desire on one evolutionary path in one place, and those on another path on another, and those on another path on still another. That’s why we talk about the ‘three’ different places. Because you have actually ‘three’ different ‘distinct’ groups on this planet.

Plus the fact that, not only are you in the process of ‘evolution’, so are the ‘other’s’ in the process of evolution – that being your animals, your birds, your fish. They are all evolving too.

JOHN: And the planet.

DATRE: And the planet itself is evolving, yes, definitely. Because, “experience” is ‘all’ there is. That’s why when people say, ‘I can hardly wait to get off this planet’, we wonder why? Experience is experience, and it doesn’t matter whether you’re on ‘this’ planet or any other planet. Or if you’re not on a planet at all. We’re not on planets. But ‘experience’ is where the excitement is. Wanting to know. Why? How come? What happens if? Those are questions, they’re ‘wonderment’s’. And ‘wondering’ is what its all about. Continue.

JOHN: And he further continues and asks… “Why the last minute “re-engineering” when the “product line” is about to be discontinued?”

DATRE: I guess we answered that, without even knowing it. But that is why it is. Because, there are those that want to get as ‘much’ as they possibly can, out of this particular planetary existence. They want to take the “whole ball game” with them. They want to get as much as they possibly can. And in the process of having these ‘energies’ on the planet, it is ‘allowing’ them the vibratory ‘content’ that they need to be able to pick up the information that they want to have access to.

You see, not everyone has to get information from the words of Datre. Those that begin to excel to the point that they can pick up their ‘own’ information are going to want to do so. They don’t want ‘dead-zone’ information; they want ‘Universal’ information. Then in order to be able to connect with that, the vibratory content of the physical construct is going to have to be changed in order to obtain that ‘type’ of information.

Because, you see, your brain has to change too. Everything changes. The more you change and the ‘faster’ you change, the ‘faster’ your evolution, and the more ‘expanded’ your evolution. And those that are sitting here, waiting for things to happen, are wanting to get as much as they can. They don’t want to ‘waste’ this lifetime by just sitting around and waiting for things to happen. They don’t want to just sit around and wait for the BIRTH. They want to ‘cram’ as much as they possibly can cram in – before the BIRTH, so they’ve got a ‘tremendous’ package to take ‘with’ them.

Those are ‘not’ the ones that want to be “realized”. Those are the ones that are the ‘tip’ of the spear. They’re the ones that want to go ‘out’. They want to get into the Universe as fast as they can. And what do they want to do when they’re there? They’ll find out when they get there. Because, the closer they get to those ‘in’ the Universe… it is like those people going to college. They don’t know what they want to be. First year, well we’ll take this subject. Next year we’ll take that. ‘I’ve only got one year left and I still don’t know what I want to be.’ Yeah. Then there are others that start out, and the first year they know ‘exactly’ where they’re going. They are going to get as much as they possibly can.

How is it that there are some that go to the university, that are studying ‘law’ and ‘medicine’ at the same time? Because they want as much as they can get. You see that’s the difference. It’s that, ‘wanting’ to know. Maybe they only want to know ‘physical’ things. So what difference does it make? That’s what they’re in – physicality. Other’s want to know about the Universe – what makes that tick. So you see… but it’s that separation of those that don’t care, and those that ‘do’. The ones that want to evolve at a ‘faster’ rate and those that want to go ‘clunking’ along. And when the BIRTH comes, the separation will be made, and you can go ‘lickety-split’ if that’s what you want. All right, continue.

JOHN: And his next and final question is… “Exactly which aspects of our current planetary existence will be carried forward into our new environment and how?”

DATRE: It will be carried by ‘you’ in whatever way you want to take it. YOU will always be “you”. That is all I can tell you – “you” will be “you”. You take what ‘you’ want ‘with’ you. That is the thing, we’ve always said, its a singular thing. It is “singular”.

You see, those that are looking for the “oneness” in everything and everybody, don’t want “singularity”. There is a great deal of difference, a “great deal” of difference. Those that want to be “singular”, that want to be a “self”, they want to have as much ‘containment’ as they can have, they certainly don’t want to be a part of “one”. That is ‘not’ their goal. To think of them as being a part of “one”, makes them shudder. ‘No, I don’t want any part of being “one”. I don’t want that “togetherness”. I’m a free spirit I want to be ‘myself’. I want to be ‘everything’ I can be. I want to be a “self”. I want to be a “creator”. I want to “be”, I want to “be”.’ But, they’re ‘not’ interested in being “part of”.

Then you see there’s another separation. Because, those that want to “be”, don’t want to be dragged down by anyone else. Nor do they want to be ‘pulled’ or ‘pushed’ by anyone else. Like those that you’ve heard them on the planet, that said, “I want to do it MY way. I will do it MY way, I will do it by myself.”. And, it is ‘not’ in the end, it is… you have a commercial that say’s, “life is a journey, enjoy the ride”. That is true.

But you see, everybody say’s, ‘oh, it will be so grand once I get out of here’. Really? How can it be grand, when you’re taking ‘your’ thought patterns with you? How can ‘you’ see it being any grander if you haven’t got the ‘eye’s’ to see that things can be ‘different’, how can it be any ‘grander’ than it is here?

Maybe, sure in the ‘dead-zone’ its different. You don’t have a physical body, for maybe five or ten minutes, because you can’t stand being without one, so you hurry up and get your “body” to the state that you can see yourself and can put clothes on and all that other kind of stuff for your comfort. But, you see, those that want to “be” don’t care – all they want to do is “be”. And they don’t care whether “beingness” is ‘in’ a physical containment, or without one. It doesn’t matter. But I’ll tell you one thing, they’re ‘not’ going to care, because they ‘know’ its “experience”, and that’s what they want. That is ‘their’ evolution. Continue.

JOHN: That was it.

DATRE: All right, thank you.

We’re Datre.

Datre answers Hans.

JOHN: Today we have some questions from Hans, and his first question is… “I realize that to get anywhere I have to know who I am. I also understand that the only way to do this is to forget about concepts, beliefs, books, teachings etc. and be my spontaneous self and live fearlessly in the here and now. Is there anything I should do or not do or know to progress on this way?”

DATRE: First of all, you don’t have to get rid of anything. It is not necessary for you to get rid of beliefs and concepts and everything. The name of the game is to EXPLORE that which you are interested in.

If you’re interested in going to a book store and picking out books, that you think you are interested in, and seeing what ‘their’ idea of reality is all about – that’s fine. You can make comparisons. You can compare the one that writes the book, and gives his idea of what ‘his’ reality is all about, with what ‘you’re’ idea of what reality is all about. And you may want to change some of ‘your’ ideas. So it does not matter. The only thing is, that if you find someone that your thought patterns, shall we say, more or less parallel, and are in agreement with many of the things that you are comfortable with, then read as many things by that particular author as you can. Because, there might be one little ‘snippet’ in there that will say something to you that you’d never thought about before.

You see, we say that because, its something you’ve thought about, but had not brought into your physical construct from the outside to put into your brain. So you don’t have to throw the “baby out with the bath water”, that is not what we’re saying. We’re saying, that when you read something, or you experience something, or whatever, it’s relating it to where you are at the present time with your belief system. You can’t exist without a belief system; you have to have one of some sort or another.

But the thing is; you relate it to what you feel at the present time. And, many times you’ll say, ‘I had forgotten all about that’. Now, that is a phenomena that is happening more often then you would believe right now. Because this “new energy” that came in recently, is doing lots of things to lots of people. The energy is quite ‘potent’. And you’ll be finding that you’ll be forgetting a lot of things – very simple things.

But, that’s beside the point, but make comparisons. You know, when you go to listen to a piece of music, you’ll say, ‘oh, I like that, it’s something new and different’. New and different than what you’d heard previously. You’ll go to look at a painting. You like this one, you don’t like that one, you’re making comparisons. That is ‘not’ judgment. That’s comparison.

Reading books, reading philosophies, and all of that – its making comparisons.

And sometimes, you’ll find, even in your television, as we’ve mentioned with Aona. There are certain things that she will watch, and in pushing the buttons will go by a station, and she will hear one sentence. And it is as if she gets shivers, because, that one sentence stands out to her as being important. It’s related, or correlates with some of the Datre information, it may correlate with some of ‘her’ ideas about herself, as she exists at the present time.

So, you see, everything you do is make ‘comparisons’. Really, that’s what a lot of OBSERVATION is, is making ‘comparisons’, but ‘not’ making judgments. You see an OBSERVER does not ‘judge’ a situation. An OBSERVER “observes”. He (or she) is making comparisons with his beliefs that are his thought patterns – and ‘learning’ from it. That’s a lot different.

Most people will look at a situation and ‘judge’ it. But you don’t learn from ‘judging’ it, you… when you ‘judge’, you shut off everything else. You look at something and say, ‘that’s wrong’ – end of subject. That’s a ‘judgment’. If you look at something and say, ‘I really don’t like that. Well, why don’t I like it?’. You see it’s always the questions.

You’ll notice a child wants to know. The child is constantly asking questions. The women talk about the children, they go through a stage and its always ‘why?’, ‘why?’, ‘why?’. And the mother and the father become exasperated, because the child wants to continually ask ‘why?’.

Well, they grow out of that. As they grow ‘bigger’ they stop asking why. That is one of the things to get back into. If you want to know, you ask. You can ask another person, you can search for the answer in a book, you can ask ‘yourself’. As long as you get an answer. And if you don’t settle for anything unless you find it.

And sometimes, those take a long time. In the case of John and Aona, with John, just recently some information came through, and he said, ‘that clears that up, I’ve wondered about that, and wondered about that – many years’.

So you see, you don’t forget. Those things are always there, and they’re still asking why. So don’t throw everything out, but keep asking ‘why’. Because, that’s how you find out ‘who’ you are. That is at least ‘one’ of the ways. Continue with the next question.

JOHN: And his next and final question is… “My daughter recently had a psychosis and is still tortured by several voices. One of this voices is very negative and she calls it a demon. It would help her and me to better understand what is really happening to her.”

DATRE: Now, we’re going to answer this question, because everyone is going to be going through this or know someone that is going to go through it.

Because of the ‘fluidity’ of that which you call your ‘realities’, there will be many connections that will be made through the physical construct. Now, one of the things that is happening is that you are beginning to ‘absorb’ your “faces” or “aspects” in different realities and different “time” spans.

That is one of the things that are happening. The other thing that is happening is, that changes are taking place within the physical construct and individuals are “opening themselves up to different vibrations”. Then what is happening is, they are beginning to ‘hear’, or they’re beginning to ‘see’, or they are beginning to ‘speak’ in different voices.

JOHN: Even in different languages.

DATRE: Many are bringing things through in different languages. But, you see, what happens is, you need the strength of character to be able to handle these situations.

Now, in order to be able to work with these ‘voices’ that are coming through the head, the ‘pictures’ that you see, the ‘voices’ that are coming through you as an individual, you need to have a very, very, strong individual ‘knowingness’ of SELF.

In other words, many do not realize and do not understand, when an ‘invasion’ is present. That can be stopped “immediately”. Aona and John have worked with these people. What happens is, when that individual first comes in, there is a ‘feeling’ within the physical construct of the individual. They ‘know’, because there is a ‘strange’ feeling that happens… that takes place within the physical construct – there’s a change. In other words, there’s that split second, before a ‘voice’ comes through, or before a picture comes through. Then at that time, that can be ‘stopped’ right then and there.

Now, this is not an easy thing to do. It is like trying to stop anger, when you’re in the middle of a tirade – it’s the same thing. And the thing is, that it takes a while to back it up, to get to the beginning. Then once you get to ‘that’ point, you can stop that, every single time. It takes a great deal of work and perseverance. It’s not something that say’s, ‘oh something is happening to me’. Something “is” happening to you, but are you ‘strong’ enough to say, ‘I will not allow this’. That is your individual choice as to how far you will let that go.

As an example, many years ago, when we started working with Aona, and she would get information that she didn’t like, and she didn’t know ‘who’ we were – she would shut us off. She would say, ‘that’s it, that’s enough’. But you see, she was a very strong individual to begin with.

Now, these peoples that these things are happening to, that’s what they think – ‘someone’s doing something ‘to’ me’. No, no one is doing anything ‘to’ you, it’s that you happen to be ‘open’, and in being ‘open’, that’s when it can occur.

That is why so many talk to the ‘dead’ people. They’re wide open. So all this stuff comes in. And they don’t shut it off, because they don’t ‘want’ to. Many of them make their living by talking to ‘dead’ peoples, for ‘other’ peoples. Or giving ‘past’ life regressions, or what ever. I mean, this is what they ‘want’ to do, this is what they ‘desire’ to do.

But, there again, you’ve got to realize, you’re the one that’s in ‘control’, nobody is controlling ‘you’. You can be controlled, if you’re not ‘strong’ enough in your own ‘beingness’. Then it is when you’re not ‘strong’ enough to say, ‘”no”, I will not allow this’, that they will continue.

Someone is probably, an ‘aspect’, a ‘face’, the pathway is ‘open’, jump in. It could be someone from the ‘dead-zone’. You see, the people in the ‘dead-zone’ love to come into a physical body and raise havoc, because they couldn’t do it when they were ‘living’. ‘Oh boy, here’s a body, let’s jump in and take over this one, I can do what I want to do’.

There is ‘no’ way that anyone can come and give you anything, unless it has some connection to you at some point in the reality of that which you call ‘time’.

Now, all I can say to you is, when you begin to see that there is a ‘change’ in the ‘facial’ expression of the individual, or in the ‘actions’ of the individual, then ‘you’ can be the strength and say, ‘get a hold of yourself “now”‘. That has to be done by the individual that is ‘invaded’, shall we say. There’s someone they don’t want to make connection with.

You see, at the time that that happens, there is a ‘space’ of ‘inattentiveness’. In other words, if there has been a devastating experience of some sort, then what has to happen, is something that is of ‘extreme’ interest to the individual, must be worked on. In other words, if its painting, if its making music, if its sewing something, if its hitting a baseball, if its running, any of these things that keeps the attention focused in a direction, will be a deterrent.

Two things cannot occupy the same ‘space’ at the same time. In other words, if you will notice, you can be very, very, sick to the stomach and you sit down to do something that you ‘thoroughly’ enjoy doing, because you say, ‘I just don’t feel good enough to do anything’. So you will find something that ‘grabs’ your attention. Read a book, do anything that captures your attention. Then, if you’re reading a book, stop reading. Your stomach doesn’t hurt for that first instant or two, until you ‘refocus’ the attention to the stomach. Then when you refocus the attention to the stomach, you’ll find that it hurts again.

You see what you do when you ‘change’ your attention from one place to another? That’s what transports your thought. Two thoughts cannot occupy the same space at the same time – it’s an impossibility. So that’s why they say, if something isn’t right – you don’t feel good or anything – change your attention span to something else.

So maybe these things can help, I do not know. We’re only speaking from the experiences that we can read the brain patterning of Aona. That’s what we’re picking up. See, we don’t have these experiences, so we can’t speak from that level. All we can speak from is, from ‘her’ experiences. Now, you see, for Aona in extreme pain, in order to get ‘relief’, she can get out of the body. And then go back in the body when it’s necessary. But you see, not everybody can do that. And that would not help in a situation like you have, because, getting out of the body, leaves the body wide open. Because the strength is not there to maintain that construct.

So, what you need for this case is, more of a ‘diversion’. And watching ‘when’ this takes place, and catching it and saying, ‘I want absolutely no part of it, shut it down’. But, that needs to be done with “intensity”. You can’t just say the words. It has to be from your very “beingness” that you utter those words – from the very “depth” of your being. That is where it comes from.

So, we hope we have been of help to you, if there are further questions, we will help you latter.

We are Datre.

Relationship Psychic Sex Connections exist in all people and in general mess up their lives. Instead they should Enhance our lives and lives of everyone around us. With Meditation Techniques we can learn The Mastery of Relationships!!

We can learn how to Get Rid of all Energy Vampires!

For all intent and purpose, Psychic Sex Connections or “strings” in relationships are very similar to umbilical connections or even electric and telephone wires, except they exist on the astral dimensional planes in all relationships. They can be very thin, or very thick, and can appear as very light or very dark streamers coming out of your energy fields/bodies.

These strings, psychic sex connections, stretch between all chakras, chakra to chakra and in the case of Relationships from abdomen to abdomen and with sex, from base chakra to base chakra.

Relationship Psychic Sex Connections can be superficially hooked onto the surface of – or more deeply plugged into the very cores of – your numerous energy fields, chakras and/or dimensional bodies.

Initially these relationship hooks or plugs seem pretty innocuous to the astral spirit, at first glance appearing very light, maybe even golden and brightly colored but Psychic Sex Connections in Relationships, no matter how attractive or light or energizing, are ties that bind, and as Gautama Buddha said, thousands of years ago, “Attachment leads to Pain”.

One of our Meditation students, Susan Macri, a medical doctor living at the ashram of Sathya Sai Baba in India teaches “cutting the ties that bind” to 2000 people a year in her workshops there, yet found it necessary to learn the Advanced Initiations of Energy Enhancement to further augment her knowledge.

These Psychic Sex Connections can limit your freedom in Relationships if you can’t manage them through knowledge of the Initiations of Energy Enhancement in Relationships…gilded chains are still chains, and a gilded cage is still a cage …. Any relationship Psychic Sex Connection can be made to appear beautiful and of the light, yet one should ask ” where does this Psychic Sex Connection lead to, or come from?”

When followed back to their origins, we have found sometimes people are unconsciously connected to people who are sucking their energies. We call these people Energy Vampires. They can also be connected in to bad entities or consciousnesses, pulling these “strings” these Psychic Sex Connections – See the movie “The Matrix” WHERE PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO BATTERIES.

You usually have a relationship with badness usually through being Implanted. The Energy Blockage or Psychic Virus implanted in you, always sends energy back to the person who implanted you. Some of these energy vampires have thousands of connections with people sending energy back to them!

Relationship Psychic Sex Connections might be seen, felt or sensed by you feeling tired and lacking in energy, or attracted by things you know are bad for you or even becoming addicted, but there are many connections that are imperceptible to most people.

It is handy to work with people who are experienced in these matters as they can help you spot the connections and help you release them, but unless you learn how to do it for yourself with advanced methods of meditation, eventually you will be implanted and vampirised of your energy again.

The bleed through of negative psychic impulses, messages and energies from one being to another through these Psychic Sex Connections can often and easily act to interfere or distort the integrity and conscious energetic experience of your own space.

This may be something most people are totally unaware of… as everyone falsely assumes that all their impulses, thoughts and feelings originate from themselves where in actuality much comes through being given Implants and addictions by these and other bad people.

The relationship Psychic Sex Connection controls them.

These matters have been known about and written about and worked with in meditation for thousands of years and indeed it is our experience in working with many clients.

Ancient man knew this…. It is good that there are movies such as “The 6th Sense” or “The Matrix” … they are to remind us that this phenomena does exist and has been written about in all civilisations.

Satchidanand, Director of Energy Enhancement, is one of the leading teachers of Meditation

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