Datre 062A – If every human on Earth at the same time was thinking the same thought, would this thought manifest immediately ?

JOHN: We have some questions from Gunilla. Her first question is… “Are you channeling other persons on Earth?”.

DATRE: What does she mean? Are we…

JOHN: Is Datre channeling through anybody else on Earth?

DATRE: Probably! You see, because we change all the time. We don’t keep track of who’s talking to who. But, it NOT too likely. The reason for that being is that the majority of the peoples that are channeling are NOT channeling the ‘energy’ that we channel through. In other words, in order to have an individual body that we can communicate with and come into and take over the body… this body had to be changed, in order to bring the energy of the physical construct up to the point that we could ‘step down’ enough to be able to make the contact. That was not an easy situation, because when you start ‘pumping’ that kind of energy into a physical construct, that becomes very uncomfortable to the individual. So there is a great deal of, shall we say… your body has an ‘electrical’ content within your ‘atomic’ structure and there’s… different peoples have different contents within their structure.

Then in order for us to make contact, ‘this’ physical structure had to be ‘changed’ in order to make the contact. There are not too many that… they’ll start out with it, but they’ll quit when it starts being uncomfortable and they won’t go any further. This is a ‘continuing’ process, because the more we work with the physical construct, the more… every time we come in through this physical construct, when we leave she is NOT the same person. Because the energy that she has ‘allowed’ to flow through her body, changes her. So, every time, she is different and that does nothing but accelerate. So it is NOT an easy process. But that does not mean there are not others that are ‘trying’ it. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “We learn a lot from you – what do you learn from us?”.

DATRE: It is a very interesting show to watch. It is even more interesting when we are able to come down and look through physical eyes and move a physical construct. You have no idea how exciting that is.

You see, in the Universe there’s no color. I know people are going to get all upset by that, but that is the truth. So to be able to come down into a physical construct and be able to get to the point to focus the eyes to ‘see’ the ‘light’ and the ‘color’ that exists on your planet is something that I could not explain to you. That is why we change as much as we do, because everyone wants to have this experience. So you see, everyone that comes down and comes into this physical construct is a different vibratory patterning, so there’s constant adjusting to this physical construct all the time. But it is exciting.

JOHN: Her next question is… “You experience physical reality through Aona… what does Earth look like from your point of view, chaos?”

DATRE: No, and I will tell you why, because Aona does not live in chaos and does not ‘see’ chaos, that is not her existence. What she creates and what other people create are different things. Each one of you on the planet, create something entirely different. That is up to you as an individual. From our standpoint, when we come in and we observe through Aona, we see nothing but beauty. Regardless of what it is, books, the back of books, are beautiful. We don’t read all the lettering, but the colors, you get the black, you get the red, you get the yellow. You look out doors you’ve got green grass, you’ve got trees, you’ve got houses of different colors, the sky is different, some… when I started, when I first came in the sky was bright blue, now the sky is like its blue, but its got clouds in it.

Everything changes, but from our stand point, if Aona lived in a mud hut and we came and looked through her eyes it would still be beautiful, because that’s what she sees. That is what her eyes are ‘tuned’ to see. That makes the difference. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “This question is a tricky one – do you know how ‘it all’ started (I mean all that exists) – and why? If you know, can you TRY to explain – or is it quite impossible for us to grasp?”

DATRE: It is impossible for you to grasp because, when I became, IT already was. Now, the number of eons that I have been around are un-numbered and there is as much on the other side. There is no way to start a beginning.

Now, that is Universally speaking, because this is only one Universe and the ‘bubble’ that you reside in, is only a very minuscule portion of any portion of that which you can see of the Universe that you exist in.

Now, the planetary ‘bubbles’ have a ‘time’ construct, but that continually changes also. Now your ‘time’ has run out. Now they have, what they call the ‘shift’ in what is going to take place and then you will have another different experience for another “period of time”. It is constantly changing, but as I have said before, I cannot tell you, when I became, IT was. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Are there many realities that are “consciously” created by thought?”

DATRE: Now I don’t know what she’s talking about as realities. If she’s talking about physical planetary existences, that is creation of a different kind, of which you have no idea. You see, things don’t just ‘happen’. There’s a plan for everything. There’s different ‘portions’ of substances that can contain existences, like the Earth, which has people, animals and fish and birds on it. But it is a certain ‘construct’ of a ‘glob’, shall we say, that is able to contain an existence. There is other ‘globs’ that do not contain an existence or could not contain existence. But in order to have anything, it has to be ‘thought’ first. It can’t exist without it.

That’s what we’re telling you about those that are going to leave ‘this’ planetary existence and they’re going out into that which you would call ‘nothing’. Then they will ‘begin’ to work from that concept. But ‘nothing’ of your planetary existence ‘works’ in the Universe. If you don’t have ‘some’ idea of how it works in the Universe, then your ‘brain’ that you use on Earth is not going to do you any good, because you can’t take it with you. This is a concept you cannot understand. But those that are going to take that shift and go there, have some idea of what its all about. But there again, it cannot be explained; because you don’t have… you have only a ‘physical brain’ to work with and your ‘physical brain’ works on ‘this’ planet – period. It can work in other planetary existences, with alterations. But it cannot work in the BIG Universe.

So that is where it is interesting for us to come down and explain things to you as to what ‘you’ are doing on your planet. Because it is ‘not’ an existence that we know. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “If every human on Earth at the same (time) was thinking the same thought, would this thought manifest immediately – or what would happen?”

DATRE: Well, it could not be. The reason it could NOT be is because the planetary existences are setup in two ways, ‘cloned’ and ‘individuation’. You began ‘cloned’; you went to ‘individuation’. In individuation, in order to ‘propel’ you through your experiences, you have to have ‘opposites’. That’s the way ‘this’ existence is set up. So even in a ‘cloned’ situation, there is ‘variance’, but there is NOT ‘individuation’. But in ‘individuation’, there is ‘no way’ to think the same thought, because in order to ‘propel’ you into your experiences, you have to have the ‘opposites’ in all directions. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “We are multi-dimensional beings – only a small portion of us exists in physical reality – and time only exists here on Earth. Does it mean that we, from a Universal point of view, live all our physical lives simultaneously? And in “which” other realities do we also exist?”

DATRE: Well, that becomes very complicated, because how am I going to explain a ‘reality’ to you? There is no way to explain a reality to you. Because in talking to you, you’re still working through a physical brain. And a ‘reality’ that cannot be explained to a physical brain, cannot be explained. It can be ‘experienced’, but it cannot be explained. That is why, in your different ‘dream scapes’, where you go into different realities in the ‘dream time’, it is all worked with ‘symbols’. The ‘translation’ of the symbols upon awakening is what forms your pictures in the ‘day time’ and is also what you try and figure out as your dreams. And you’re working from a physical construct and you’re trying to take ‘dream’ zymology and so you’re working with two ‘different’ constructs entirely.

Now, there are ‘symbols’ in your dreams that you need to figure out and then, there are others that say, ‘it’s of no interest to me, I will go with the flow’. So it depends on how you are working, but I can’t explain a reality to you, when a reality is NOT explainable.

JOHN: OK, her next question is… “You are talking about 12 sub-realities – what exists there – are they specially connected to our Earth? Is a portion of Earth humans existing in every (one) of these sub-realities? I suppose the ‘dead zone’ is one of them… but the others?”

DATRE: No, the ‘dead zone’ is NOT a reality. A dead zone is an entirely ‘different’ construct. The ‘realities’, as said before, they can be experienced, but we cannot explain them because there are not ‘words’ that you could comprehend. You, every one of you, in your ‘dream time’, go into multiple realities, multiple realities. Every time you go to sleep you go into different realities, why should you stay here? In your experiencing of different realities, that depends what ‘you’ in the physical, are able to coincide with the YOU that you are. You see, what you think in the daytime, with your brain, is very, very strong. You have ‘locked’ yourself into ‘brain’ thinking and experiencing. So, hanging on to this ‘brain’ thinking, you go into your ‘sleep time’ and you ‘block’ yourself by the ‘vibration’ that you carry into your ‘dream time’ of going into a ‘lot’ of realities. Because, you have a ‘fear’ construct, that you will take into your ‘dream time’, or you will take a certain thought patterning into your ‘dream time’.

As we have said before, if you will just ‘clear’ that and ‘allow’ the experiences to take place. It is like with Aona, when we take the body, she comes back in many times, in fact the majority of the time, very disorientated. It takes her many ‘hours’ sometimes to be able to ‘navigate’. Everything is ‘strange’; everything in the house is ‘strange’. And it takes her a long time to be able to get back into the working ‘brain’ where everything becomes solid and what you call in physicality, ‘real’. She has been asked many times, ‘what do you experience?’, ‘fantastic, but I can’t tell you what it was’. She comes back and she’s exhilarated, she’s been someplace that has no explanation. That’s what you do at night, if you have the ‘allowance’. So, there’s no way to explain that, because that is where ever ‘you’ go, into whatever realities ‘you’ go into in your ‘dream scapes’. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Is it possible to have several physical lives on Earth in different bodies without knowing it?”

DATRE: I don’t know why not. But you don’t do it. You will do it in different ‘time’ spans, those are your ‘faces’, those are your ‘aspect’ selves. And some of you have them in ‘this’ time span. But, that depends upon ‘who’ you are as to how much you can handle. In other words, can you handle ‘popping’ back and forth? Because, if you’re in two physical constructs, the YOU that you are is in two physical constructs, are you able to switch back and forth and NOT get confused? Because as I’ve said before, the physical brain is very strong.

There are also those that will get together and, shall we say, inhabit ONE body and ‘skip’ in and out of that one body at different times. There are those that have had a physical existence that you have called by one name, but that one name has had ‘different’ inhabitants, shall we say, and it has been a ‘multiple’. Then you will get into that which you call, the people that have all these people that enter their body and talk differently and do different things, entirely ‘different’ personalities. But, there again, it is the strength of ‘who’ you are in the physical that will change that. You’ll find that they have… I think you’ve had movies where they’ve shown that there are two different people. One person acts one way and one person acts the other way and its all within one physical body – they split them like that or probably two or three. But you see, that is just using a body, but there’s no one in control. The majority on the planet is staying in one body and ‘not’ allowing others to pop in and out of it all the time. So, continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “How do you define a Universe? Does every Universe contain ‘the same package of ingredients’ (sorry I don’t like the expression, but its hard to find fitting words)? If yes, what are the ingredients?”

DATRE: You do not even know the ‘ingredients’ of THIS Universe. You see, things do not just happen, it takes many to contain and keep shall we say, a Universe running – working. It is like; you have an office that has several different peoples working in it to make that office work. You’ve got someone that answers telephones, you’ve got someone that types, you’ve got somebody that is the manager, you’ve got different peoples in an office to make everything work that is within that office. You can change the people, but you have to have this many things going in order to make the office work. So, even if the receptionist is sick or as they call it, doesn’t show up for work, somebody does double duty, but that still has to be maintained as a working situation.

All right, the Universe with us, works the same way – except that we always show up for work, because there’s no place else to go – ha ha ha ha. So, we’re always there. But, it has to be maintained. And you can call all of those that are Datre part of the maintenance crew of the Universe. We observe, but we have our own jobs, so you can call us the office workers, whatever you want to call us.

Now, as we’ve said before, there are more Universes. We know they’re there because we communicate with them. But we don’t know what they’re like until we get there. We can’t explain the Universe to you, because you’re in a physical body, any more than they can explain their Universe to us. But, they’re there and we’re here and your ‘bodies’ are here.

But, the reason you’re in physicality in the first place, is to gain experience enough to get ‘out here’ where we are – and play. Because, our jobs are play – we’re doing what we want to do. We don’t want the ‘restrictions’ of the physical body; we want to do other things. We want to take ‘nothing’ and make ‘something’ and I really mean NOTHING. You see you wouldn’t be able to do that in physicality. You have to take ‘something’ in order to make ‘something’ else. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “What separates one Universe from another? Are there certain spans of frequencies in every Universe?”

DATRE: I have no idea, I haven’t been there yet and the last Universe that I was in I don’t remember. We don’t have memory; you’re the only thing that remembers. The physical body remembers, we don’t have that. That is what we call TOTAL freedom, because you don’t have to remember anything. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Is the Prime Source in all Universes the same or do every Universe have their own Prime Source?”

DATRE: Everything is different. Why repeat anything? The only thing that gets repeated is your physical existences. And unfortunately, many of you don’t even change shall we say, from one lifetime to another. You still maintain the same patterning – my goodness how boring. You continue, lifetime after lifetime after lifetime, doing the same thing. Like I told you about the poor dirt farmer. Never made any changes, every lifetime, same thing – poor dirt farmer.

So, that is why your ‘time’ is running out, because you don’t have enough ambition or whatever you want to call it to get yourself ‘out’ of FEAR. A ‘time’ was put on. We expected this to be over, we expected you to be at least going out someplace else. But you’re still sitting here, so the time is over and when the ‘time’ is over you’re not going to have anything to work with. You’re going to have to get something else, a new experience, maybe that will jar you out of your lethargy – that’s what we’re trying to do. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Datre, what is your task in Universe – do you exist only in our Universe – and who/what is ‘above’ you? (I know there is no hierarchy – but you probably understand how I mean)”

DATRE: Well there again, like I say, you see, you’re relating everything to physicality. We DO, we don’t explain what we do, if we could explain what we did it wouldn’t make any sense anyway. So, as far as explaining any of that, it is very difficult to do that.

My intent, the one that’s in the body right now, my intent is to get you to the point that you stretch the physical brain enough so that you can comprehend a little bit of what this is all about. Now, in three minutes I could vacate this body and there would be another Datre in here who would have an entirely different agenda. They may have a ‘specific’ agenda, something that they have observed that they want to bring in – each one of us when we use the body we all have different intents and purposes, even in contacting through this body. Because you are only seeing words, not hearing voices, you don’t know there is a difference taking place all the time. Then you see, because of that, Aona has gotten to the point that she ‘likes’ that feeling because when she comes back into the body, it is extremely stimulated. Maybe a little off kilter as far as finding things is concerned, but she thinks its fun. We enjoy it, so each one has something different to offer. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Are there any ‘Source/s’ ‘above’ the Prime Source/s?”

DATRE: I don’t know what you mean by sources, you see, there again, you’re thinking of a god principle. If you look at those questions very carefully, and I have been avoiding this because its a sore point for many people, but you’re looking at everything as if there has to be A SINGLE DEITY or whatever you want to call it, that created this whole thing. That’s the way I see the questions being asked. It doesn’t work that way. It takes a combination of US’s to put a Universe into motion – to keep it going, to maintain it. So there is no ONE. I see those questions going for… there’s no SOURCE. All of your religions and all of that is they all seem to be based on a single SOURCE. In other words, you have the BIG BANG theory and all of that. Then there is ONE that takes care of the whole thing. That is only in Earth context – it’s NOT a Universal Principle. Even here, in your ‘bubble’, it is NOT a one Principle type situation. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “Are there physical worlds that are quite similar to ours or is every physical world unique in itself?”

DATRE: Every one is unique within itself – definitely unique within itself. As to bodies, you’ve got them this way, but you’re not going to go to another planet and find bodies like yours. OK!

JOHN: Her next question is… “Pick a physical reality that is totally different from ours and describe what it’s like… do the same with a non-physical reality.”

DATRE: No can do. You don’t have the brains to comprehend it so it isn’t going to do any good.

JOHN: In other words you just… again it’s the same thing we’ve been saying for quite a long while, ‘the brain can only comprehend what its exposure has been’.

DATRE: That’s right. That is why you see ‘ships’ up in the sky. You see… your eyes pick up a vibration and because it’s something that you can’t comprehend, it’s got to be a ‘space ship’. Then everybody in mass consciousness agrees it’s a ‘space ship’, so therefore it is. Someone says, ‘I see Jesus hanging up there’ and everybody agreed that was Jesus hanging up there, that’s who it would be.

See its all… you don’t realize that when you went into ‘individuation’ how individual you truly, truly are. You might be in a very close relationship with another individual, but you don’t have ANY idea what goes on in the other persons ‘brain’ or ‘dream time’, either one. So, the sooner you all begin to realize, this is a SINGULAR JOURNEY, from beginning to end of the whole thing – SINGULAR.

Now, its comforting to cry on somebody’s shoulder or whatever, but you make the trip ALONE. Then the ones that ENJOY knowing that they make the trip ALONE – even if you’re surrounded by a whole family in one house – the JOURNEY is ‘yours’. Then if you enjoy that JOURNEY, that is all that’s important. You’ll say, ‘well I need to make money and I need to take care of my family and all this and that’. Sure, but that has nothing to do with the DISCOVERY that goes on within that brain that you’re using to translate your pictures with.

Now, this is something that Aona and John have done many times. When you do it, it’s a play thing, you can play with it and have fun with it. Take a teacup, not a mug, mugs don’t work unless you’ve got patterns on them, if you’ve got a coffee mug with a pattern that’s fine too. Put everybody, line them up or put them in a circle or whatever, then hand the first person that cup and tell them to explain what that cup looks like. Then pass it on to the next person and have them explain what that cup looks like. Then by the time that cup has gone around the second time – each time everybody’s got to find something different with that cup – then by the time you start going around the second time people will start arguing with you as to what you see on that cup because they don’t see it. ‘But there’s a flower right there’, ‘no there isn’t a flower right there’. Now, who’s right and who’s wrong? One individual sees a flower, how many see a flower and how many don’t see a flower? Keep on going that cup becomes absolutely unrecognizable. Play with it, and then you will begin to see how you create what you’re looking at. It is a fun thing. You’ll have great fun, you’ll laugh… ha ha. Continue.

To be continued on Datre62b

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Datre 061 – Is there a purpose to romantic love?

JOHN: We have a question from Thomas, he asks… “I wonder if Datre can comment on the size of the comet (Hale-Bopp) and the effects on the Earth by the fly by?”.

DATRE: The size I cannot tell you. When it goes by, if it comes close enough to your Earth it will have the velocity in the passing of the Earth and the ‘magnetic’ quality that is setup between the two will CLEAN your atmosphere and clean-up a lot of debris that is surrounding your planet. If it does not come close enough, then nothing will happen. It is NOT going to ‘bump’ you if that’s what you’re concerned about. Because of the amount of information that has been gleaned by this particular group in physicality of many thousands of years that this has been in existence the ‘destruction’ of anything would NOT be allowed – too much would be lost as far as the Universe is concerned. But, if it does come close enough, it will do a cleansing action – but that is undeterminable.

JOHN: By ‘cleansing’ action you mean burn off a lot of the ‘pollutants’ that we have put into our atmosphere.

DATRE: Yes, but don’t use the words ‘burn off’ that scares people. It will NOT be a ‘burning’ action, as far as we can tell. It will be more like a vacuuming type thing. All right?
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JOHN: OK. Now we have some questions from Yasmin and her first question is… “Is there a purpose to romantic love? Is it in all parts of existence/the Universe?”

DATRE: Romantic love, you used the word romantic, there is romantic love on your planet and what romantic love is all about is ‘genetics’. Your ‘genetics’ draw you to different people. It is NOT the YOU that you are; it is the physical construct that genetically draws you to individuals. Now, you can do anything you want to with that connection. You can be drawn to an individual, attracted to that individual, be it man or woman, but it does not ‘necessarily’ evolve into a romantic situation. That depends on the individual. Some people are very inclined to ‘jump’ in and out of relationships. Other people are very content with a, what you call, a platonic relationship. Much can be gleaned from both. The ‘romantic’ part of it depends upon the genetics. Some people have a great deal of feeling for another person, but are not ‘gushy’ about it, shall we say. So it is all a matter of what your genetics are, what you have picked up that ‘you’ want to experience. But it’s ALL body and the body was made by you. Continue.

JOHN: She continues with another question that says… “Does it move us forward?… so often ‘false love’ seems to hold back.”

DATRE: No. There’s no such thing as ‘false’ love, there’s no such thing as ‘real’ love. It is what you do with a relationship as to whether you’re going to grow. If it is just a ‘hop in bed’ kind of thing and ‘that’ is the attraction you’re going to find – in the matter of a few years, that’s gone. Then what are you going to do? If there’s nothing that holds you together, other than two ‘bodies’, that’s not going to last.

You see your make-up is so entirely different. The animals have their mating seasons. You’re turned on all the time, you never turn off. But that is what your species wanted. So that is why your despair of why relationships don’t work. You never turn that switch off, that’s an ON switch. So, that is something that at one point in time the ‘mass consciousness’ wanted – so that’s what you have to contend with.

JOHN: She continues along that vain and says… “Is romantic love ‘instinctual’ or a human ‘whim’ stemming from a ‘neediness’ to work in pairs?”.

DATRE: Pairs are fine. Pairs work in many different relationships. It depends upon what you want out of a relationship. If you want ‘mental’ stimulation and you find that you live together very well, that is fine. If you find that you want ‘mental’ stimulation and you can’t live together, but you have a very ‘strong’ attraction to that person, that’s fine too. It is ALL how YOU set up the parameters of your genetics and what ‘you’ want to experience. This is why so many people right now are finding that the man goes one way the woman goes another way, simply because one is beginning to make ‘drastic’ changes and the other one is standing still. Same thing happens in all kinds of relationships, whether it be man/woman, woman/woman, man/man it doesn’t matter. If it is ‘all’ based on sex, period, you’re going to be hopping all over the place. And that is up to ‘you’, as to what control ‘you’ want with your physical construct. Continue.

JOHN: OK, she gets into that a little bit in her next question. She says… “Do we only fall in love with souls we have connected with in past lives? Can we recognize them, if we haven’t done ‘past life’ investigation? Do we make first-time connections a lot too?”.

DATRE: Well you see, there again, that which you call your past lives and all of that and you’re making connections again with the ‘same’ people, then you’re into a genetics thing. It ALL goes back to how do you – when you take a physical body, lets put it that way – you ‘pick’ the genetics that ‘you’ want to experience. Because most of the time you come in, you’re ‘not’ that interested in what you pick and choose. So you ‘hop’ back into the same family relationships that you had previously. That is why there has always been this ‘want’ to have many children so that you’re sure that you can come back again into some kind of a physical construct. In other words, if there is no family that you can come back into through the children, then what are you going to do? If there is ‘one’ child that you can come back in through, how do you know that child is going to ‘accept’ you in the way you want to be accepted to come back through?

So you see, its all genetics, a very simple process. You are continually going to be drawn exactly to the ‘same’ kind of people, because you’re going back into the ‘same’ families again.

Now, the individual that is in a growth situation will ‘not’ pick their very, very last genetics to work from. You’ve got thousands and thousands and thousands of years of genetics within your ‘genetic pool’. You have no idea the extent of the genetics that you contain within your body. Why not go way, way back and pick out something interesting, instead of being a ‘dirt farmer’ every time you come around? Now don’t laugh, because Aona and John have been in situations where they have been doing what you call past life regressions, and the poor young couple have been ‘dirt farmers’ as far back as they can go in their regressions. They have done it again and again and again and again. That’s because they’re ‘not’ paying any attention. Then they are wondering, why they are so poor and why they are in such dire straights. That’s what we’re trying to do; we’re trying to get your attention.

Now, somebody says, ‘well these are my genetics, poor me’. Have you ever thought about ‘changing’ them? Just take a look; you’ve got thousands and thousands and thousands of years of genetics, why can’t you be something different? Pull up some of this, try it, extend yourself, push yourself. That’s what the ‘growth’ process is all about. Just don’t sit there and moan and groan and complain.

Now somebody says, ‘well I couldn’t be a pianist like that’. How do you know? Go back 10,000 years, what do you know about your genetics 10,000 years ago? I don’t think you know very much about it – its there. Everybody has tried everything on this planet. Why is it that people are famous? You go back and they’re famous all the way back. They’ve done this again and again and again, because they like being famous. You take Eva Peron, you take Marilyn Monroe and you take… what’s her name now that…

JOHN: Madonna!

DATRE: Madonna, who’s she – all three. Its fun being famous. So, you pick and choose. But, you have to be ‘aware’ in order to pick and choose. And that is what we’re telling you. If you want something, go for it. There’s no better time than right now – the energies will support you.

Then you’ll say, ‘well I tried something and I went broke, its Datre’s fault’. No it isn’t. The thing is, you’re doing that for your own education. Get ‘out’ there. There are all kinds of things in this world to experience. You’ve got all kinds of genetics. Start PLAYING with LIFE instead of looking at it all down. You get to ‘playing’ with ‘life’ and it will turn around and go up. Continue.

JOHN: Her next question is… “What does Datre have to say about sex? Many religions condemn sex, unless there is an Earth-style marriage contract. Is sex a distraction (it sure can be distracting) or is sexual love the magnet that can attract true human romantic love and the glue that can bind it?”.

DATRE: I go back to a very simple statement – its all your genetics. Its what ‘you’ believe. You are born with genetic patterns and you pick and choose as you begin to grow, from baby on. ‘I don’t like that characteristic of my dad, I’m not going to be like that’. ‘I don’t like this in my mother, I don’t like that’. You’re setting it up constantly. You’re making choices, making choices. Then how come when you get out of high school, you don’t know what to do with yourself? You’ve been making choices all along the way. When you hit puberty, one week you want to be a doctor, one week you want to be an engineer, the next week you want to be an actor. You change, you change, you change, you’re fitting, fitting, fitting, trying to find what you want to do. Everybody says, ‘what are you going to do when you get out of high school?’, ‘I don’t know yet’. You don’t, because you’re playing with all of these things. Then you get out of high school and you don’t know what to do with yourself.

You have to learn to use your body in some way, other than sitting around complaining. If you’re going to ‘grow’, in any direction, try things out. Don’t sit around and complain about it. Because that is not going to get you any place. When you get to be 40, how many different job situations have you tried? Have you stayed in the same place, year after year after year or have you been out and ‘tasted’ different things? That’s what its all about. They’ll say, ‘well that person is never going to amount to anything because they keep changing all the time’. Now, from our vantage point, we would say, ‘There’s someone that’s going someplace because they’re not developing a ‘monitory’ standard to live by.’ They’re gaining experience for growth. Continue.

JOHN: On that question, the first part of the question I don’t think you dealt with.

DATRE: What was that that I missed?

JOHN: The first part of the question says… “What does Datre say about sex?” and religion thing.

DATRE: I answered that; I said that depends upon what you believe. You’re born into a situation. As a child you’re born into a situation with parents. How do you know how to discriminate anything unless your parents tell you? Your parents tell you ‘sex is bad’. Your parents tell you what religion you’re going to be. Your parents tell you, you will do this, you will do that, you will do something else. Your teachers will tell you this and this and this. That is how you grow and until you get old enough or you have enough that you came in with to make decisions and say, ‘that isn’t what I want’. Your parents say sex is bad, sex is dirty and you look at them and they’re married people and you’re saying, ‘I can’t fit those two together.’ If your mother says sex is bad and sex is dirty, how come she’s involved in it? You see, that’s where children form, what you call, opinions, is from what they ‘observe’ from a family situation or non family situation or single parent situation or whatever. Or maybe you were brought up by your grandparents. Or maybe you’ve put into an orphanage or something. But these are what you call your ‘formative’ years. This is when you make your decisions as to what you want out of life.

Now, there’s a difference in children and if you watch children very closely, you will see it. Look into a child’s eyes and you will see a baby body in whose eyes you will see a forty year old person. You will look at another baby body and look into the eyes and you will see ‘gooo gooo gaaa gaaa’. Now, the child in a baby body whose eyes are forty years old knows where it’s going and what it’s going to do. Start observing children and see how many gooo gooo gaaa gaaa’s you’ve got on your planet and how many bodies of children you have that are forty years old.

There again, I’m getting back to ‘observation’. Those children that come in in baby bodies that are forty years old know ‘what’ they’re here for. Now, you’re grown up now, but that does ‘not’ mean you have to stay where you are. Start ‘pushing’ that envelope. Begin to LIVE, instead of ‘exist’. Continue.

JOHN: Her final question goes as follows… “My main question: I have fallen in love and often have deep yearnings for things to work as I ‘want’ them to, especially at the start… do you have advice on how, when our emotions are running so high, we can balance these yearnings with the proper patience and trust that the right course of events will unfold? Love is so powerful this urge can be hard to deal with.”.

DATRE: Yes, it is. Your sexual urges are the strongest that you have and that is the strongest emotion within your physical body. Now, you want a situation to work, you are madly in love with an individual, regardless of what the situation is. That individual is all consuming in your life, ‘this is who I want’. You’re working from the ‘physical’ emotions. What does the YOU that you are want? It may say, ‘no, that is not going to take you where you said you wanted to go’. Your ‘intent’ was to do this and this. You follow your emotions and it’s going to take you in the ‘opposite’ direction. So, who wins? Do you go into the emotional physical relationship that ‘you’ want and eventually get the message, through the physical and go through the ‘crash’ for another experience? Or do you want to avoid it and go in the direction that the ‘signs’ say, ‘this is the way you need to go’?

Being in the physical is a ‘tricky’ situation. That is why we have continually said, ‘observe’. You have ‘guidelines’ out there in front of you. You’re putting pictures in front of you every second of your life. Now, how observant are you of the pictures that you put in front of you? The pictures you put in front of you are telling you many, many different things constantly. Sometimes you can run around and run around and ‘not’ see them. That’s why some peoples lives work differently than others. Because the ‘observer’ is constantly aware of the pictures they put in front of them.

Now, just as an aside… in looking for a new abode, for these two, a comment was made by a realtor, ‘I sold a house last week that was ‘exactly’ what you want’. John’s comment was, ‘That was not our house, if it were, it would still be there’. Now, if that had been the ‘right’ house, it would have still been there – it would ‘still’ be there. Well maybe this won’t work out, if it won’t work out maybe that’s not the right place to be.

There is a saying that is very, very good that say’s, ‘don’t PUSH the river’. You don’t CHARGE into the ‘future’. When you become an ‘observer’ you are PULLED, like a magnet, into your future. Because, as you begin to flow and work ‘with’ the physical body and work with the pictures that you’re putting in front of you constantly, you will get ‘into’ that flow. Because you’re ‘watching’ what’s going on and you will follow it and that’s where your life will begin to ‘smooth’ out. One NEVER goes anywhere in despair. Go through the ‘despair’, go through the agony, but then say, ‘that’s enough; I don’t need this any more. Now, I’m going to start watching what’s happening.’ Change your life from ‘that’ point. Continue.

JOHN: That was the last question. But I wanted to clarify something. When you made a reference to the ‘signs’ you are NOT speaking of astrological signs?

DATRE: Oh, no, no, no, no! I’m talking about the sign you put up in front of yourselves that you need to ‘observe’. Everyone is different. You know, you all work from ‘symbols’. That’s why you don’t translate many of your dreams, because it is all ‘zymology’. When you begin to ‘read’ the symbols that you’re are putting in front of you, these can be very small, very insignificant. The greater ‘observer’ you become, the more you will notice them.

If you walk into a store, just as an example, and you want ‘one’ specific thing… a box of cookies, and you walk into a store and it is chaos, that is telling you something. Do you want to get into that chaos and get your emotions all up and walk into that? Is that the kind of existence that you want? Now, many people will just ‘charge’ on through and pick up all this energy that’s going all these different directions. Now, the ‘observer’ will say, ‘I’m not going into that, I’m not going into that hub bub’ and turn around and get into the car and either forget the cookies or go into another store. Observe ‘what’ you’re doing with your body.

Now, going into groups of people, is another thing to observe. You go into a ‘new age’ community where they’re having these Fairs. With all these people with the ‘tarot cards’ and the people with the ‘astrological charts’ and the people that are going to do ‘palm reading’ and the people that are going to give you all this information and so forth. Now, depending upon your ’emotional’ body, your physical construct, there are some individuals that just ‘gravitate’ to all that divergent energy. Also, there is the opposite. The last time Aona did anything like that, and it was a very small group, she ended up getting sick because of all the energy that was flying in every which way. If you could ‘see’ what it looks like in one of those rooms, you would ‘know’ what is going on. Now, do you want that or don’t you? Again, that’s your ‘observations’. If you want to ‘suck up’ that energy, fine. If you don’t, you don’t. Observe before you go ‘crashing’ into a situation. That’s what an ‘observer’ does. They ‘evaluate’ each and every situation.

In looking at houses, with Aona and John, there are houses that Aona will not go into or will go in the front door, turn around and walk out because the energies of the people are still there. There are other energies in other houses where she can hardly wait to get the door open to get inside. Observe. That is what we’re telling you constantly. Continue.

JOHN: That was that.

DATRE: All right, thank you.

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Datre 060 – How do you get rid of beliefs?

JOHN: We have some questions from Thomas. His first question is… “How do you know if you are operating under a ‘belief system?'”

DATRE: Everyone is, everyone is operating under a belief system, that is a given.

JOHN: His next question is… “What are the tell tale sign of a belief system?”

DATRE: Well, you are ‘all’ working under a belief system. The thing that we are trying to get you to recognize is ‘what do you believe?’. Where are your ‘beliefs’, that is the big number, where are they? OK, continue.

JOHN: He next asks… “How do you get rid of beliefs?”

DATRE: You do not get ‘rid’ of beliefs, you ‘replace’ them – it is an automatic. If you have always, always, always, believed that if this circumstance happened, this would naturally follow. If that is something that you’ve always believed, if this happens, then this will happen automatically, then THAT is a belief that you need to look at.

Now, say to yourself, ‘if this happens, does this automatically have to happen?’. Now, when you look at it in that context, then you can ‘see’ what a belief is. Now, that is probably not easy for you to come upon, but if you are looking for it you will find it, because it will pop-up in front of you.

Now, this business of saying, ‘abusive people will always go into abusive situations’, in other words, if a woman or man marries a woman or man that is a ‘drunk’, the first thing everybody says, ‘well next time he or she marries, they’ll do the same thing, I’ve seen it happen so often’. Now, if you want to accept that, that’s fine, you ‘believe’ that is the sequence.

But, stop and take a look at it. There are those that have been in that situation, with peoples that are drunks and have walked away from that situation and have changed their lives completely. Analyze that, this is what we are trying to get you to do.

There are as many people that do it one way, as there are that do it the other. Which one do YOU want to see? Do you want to see the ones that make the change or do you want to see the ones that stay in the same situation? That is a very simplistic belief, but it is a belief. It is not ‘good’, ‘bad’, or ‘indifferent’ in this case, it does not matter. What matters is YOU becoming ‘aware’ that ‘both’ situations exist. You ‘observe’ both situations and you ‘allow’ both situations, but you get ‘involved’ in neither. Immediately, that ‘changes’ a belief, it does ‘not’ get rid of it. Continue.

JOHN: His next part of that question is… “I believe DATRE is providing Universal knowledge, is that part of a belief system?”

DATRE: As far as your concerned, yes, because you said, ‘I believe’. You see how tricky that little word is? You believe it, then it is so. Someone also will say, ‘that stuff doesn’t ring true to me, that’s a bunch of garbage’. Now, what’s his belief system? Its what YOU believe, what YOU want to maintain, that is up to you. Continue.

JOHN: He next asks… “Is the concept of a belief system a limiting factor or is it the actual content of the belief system that is limiting?”.

DATRE: Neither is limiting. A belief system is ‘one way’ for you to ‘observe’, to ‘change’ if you wish, but know that it is not the only way that things exist. Belief systems are so very beneficial; because they are the ‘grandest’ of all ways you have of ‘observation’. Because by becoming aware of ‘your’ belief systems you are observing to a ‘greater depth’ than you would if you were just going through life from birth to death. Your ‘observations’ is the thing that ‘changes’ you. And as your observation of a belief system changes, ‘you’ automatically change the pictures ‘you’ put in front of you and ‘that’ is where your ‘expansion’ comes in. It does not mean you have to ‘change’ it, be aware of it. Continue.

JOHN: His next question is… “Explain more about integrating with an aspect of yourself. I have recently met someone that seems to ‘vibrate’ much like myself. What takes place in an integration process mentally and physically?”.

DATRE: Well, when you have met up with somebody ‘physically’, that is an entirely different situation than that which we have spoken of. When we are talking about the ‘integration’ of an aspect self or face or whatever you want to call it, we are speaking of those that are coming to you “in the dream state” or in the what you call the “day dreaming state” or in the “state of meditation” that you are meeting and making this connection.

Sometimes you can ‘see’ a face, more often than not you will not see a face, but you will ‘feel’ a connection. That will happen in the “dream state”, in “day dreaming state”, it can happen even in a state of being “perfectly relaxed”.

You can ‘feel’ a change within the physical construct. In other words, what is happening now is… they’ve talked about the ‘veils’ and all of this… the ‘realities’ are coming together, shall we put it that way, because the ‘time line’ is NOT there. And because ‘here and now’, more than any other “time period”, which is separate, but still simultaneous, is ‘integrating’, is coming together, is ‘compressing’. And because you in the physical at the present time are, shall we say, are further along in your ‘evolution’ than the other ‘time line’ faces and aspects, you’re pulling these ‘to’ you and they are coming ‘to’ you. They will either come ‘with’ you OR they will go their own way after ‘touching’ with you.

Because there are those that will go their ‘own’ way, they may be, shall we say, further ahead than you are right now. It is a possibility, it is a possibility there has been a ‘digression’ from 1500 to 1997. It can happen, it is not as apt to happen, but it can happen. So the integration when these are ‘touched’ the decision may be made to either go with you OR go on their own. Because they have been ‘individuated’ to the point, that they want to continue at their own pace. That can happen, but it does not happen that you will integrate ‘physically’ with someone that you are meeting. Now, you can meet a ‘face’ or an ‘aspect self’, but the integration will not take place on a daytime level. It does NOT take place in that way, because the integration is NOT a ‘physical’ one. It takes place with the YOU that you are, that’s where the integration takes place. Continue.

JOHN: His next question is… “When the split comes will it be in the blink of an eye, or over a period of time?”

DATRE: Didn’t we just answer that?

JOHN: Maybe so on the other transcript.

DATRE: It does not matter. It only matters as to ‘your’ perception of it. That is all we can tell you at this time, because it has not happened. It has NEVER happened before, so how can we make predictions? We cannot. We are watching this as an evolutionary process also. Continue.

JOHN: He then continues… “Will we be aware that something is happening?”

DATRE: You might and you might not. There again, that depends on you. You are the one that makes the decision, it will be ‘your’ decision, it will be how YOU perceive it. Continue.

JOHN: His next question is… “What happened to the physical bodies of the astronauts when they went to the moon?”

DATRE: Why should anything happen, you’re still within your ‘Earth’ bubble. Your Earth bubble contains both your Earth planet and your moon; your bubble contains ALL of that. So why should anything change? You are going through what you call a ‘gravity’ change but you’re ‘still’ within your own system, you have not left your own system. Its the same thing with going up in an airplane, you go up in airplanes, what do you have to do, you have to have more oxygen. What happens to your body in an airplane? What happens to these test pilots that go way up and do all these things in these planes that are going so fast and so high that nobody else goes? They have oxygen, that’s the only thing they need, but they come down in one piece if they don’t crash.

So, you go in a metal container and you go to the moon and you’ve got stuff that’s giving you oxygen, so what’s the problem – there is none?

JOHN: You’ve pretty well answered the next part of his question which was… “How did their bodies maintain their physical appearance?”.

DATRE: It does, just like going in an airplane, no difference. As long as you have that which you call your oxygen to maintain your stability, your HOLOGRAM will stay intact.

JOHN: Now, his final question is… “What would happen if they actually sent someone to Mars?”.

DATRE: That is so far in the future it is very hard to tell. First of all, you have to get your pieces of tin to go that far. To get your pieces of tin to go that far and turn around and come back again without ‘disintegration’ is going to take quite a bit of doing. So, when they get their pieces of tin to go out that far, turn around and come back and land upon your planet Earth, then you can think about putting people inside. I don’t think you’ve done that yet – have they?

JOHN: No, we’ve sent satellites up, but those are one way trips.

DATRE: That is correct. Nothing has come back again.

JOHN: Only trash.

DATRE: That’s why the peoples haven’t gone. Ha ha, it is very simple. Continue.

JOHN: That was the last of the questions from Thomas.

DATRE: All right, now, probably to everyone’s amazement we just finished November. We have gotten that far behind, but because there was so much ground work needed to be laid, to be able to take you and help you with your understanding, some of our sessions have become very long. But we wanted to finish up this November business. We are quite a ways behind and we have a ‘lot’ of questions yet to go. So please do not be discouraged with the time element. We are giving you information as best we can. We have shifted many of the questions that have been asked by individuals on purpose. Because when we find that we are following a certain thought patterning, we will pick-up the questions that are maintaining that line of information. So there has been the changes within those questions of ‘when’ they were answered. But now we are up to the month of December and we will go from there and see how we can work with those. Because when we begin a line of information, we wish to continue on that, to give you enough so that you have enough to make a meal.

In other words, we don’t like to come in and put down a glass of water and a cup of coffee and go off and leave you. We relate that to what they happen to do here in your restaurants. But, as you well know, when you sit with a glass of water and a cup of coffee for fifteen minutes, is in your terms a long time, and you become impatient. So we try to give you enough, so that we bring you the water and the coffee and we wait a few minutes, then we bring you a salad and then we will bring you the food and so far we have not come to too much desert. But anyway, that is why we have changed the questions. This is the way we have arranged the questions and we will, with everything that is going on, in this household alone, changes in the physical construct, the changes of looking for another abode, we are very busy. But we will try and maintain a somewhat steady flow for your information. We will leave you now.

We are Datre.

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